[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2019-1: Clarify Section 4 IPv4 Request Requirements

Joel Large jlarge at glwb.net
Sun Mar 3 13:58:22 EST 2019


I agree anything to curb this practice.  The fact we are asked to justify the need for the IPV4 space and people are getting them falsely needing them is frustrating. Joel LargeGeneral ManagerGLW Broadband Inc.440 926 3230Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Scott Leibrand <scottleibrand at gmail.com> Date: 3/3/19  1:52 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Chris Woodfield <chris at semihuman.com> Cc: arin-ppml <arin-ppml at arin.net> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2019-1: Clarify Section 4 IPv4
  Request Requirements Thanks for clarifying that, Chris. I support this draft policy proposal: forcing applicants to wait to get into line for free space will at least slow down any attempts to make money off the free pool via the waiting list. Scott> On Mar 3, 2019, at 10:02 AM, Chris Woodfield <chris at semihuman.com> wrote:> > Hi Tom - responses inline.> > One additional point - the current policy places a limit on how often an organization can receive resources from the waiting list. This draft changes the hold-down timer so that it now applies to *applications* for new allocations under the waiting list policy, not the receipt of resources from it.> >> On Mar 3, 2019, at 7:18 AM, Tom Fantacone <tom at iptrading.com> wrote:>> >> Chris,>> >> The "clarification" part of your proposal seems to be a no brainer (the waiting period is meant to apply to allocations only under section 4).  I assume ARIN staff is already interpreting it this way since that was the intent of the section.  So I wouldn't sever it unless the full policy doesn't gain support in which case we could revisit just inserting the clarification part.>> > > That assumption is my understanding as well.> >> Regarding this:>> "- Disallows organizations that have transferred space to other parties within the past 12 months from applying for additional IPv4 space under NRPM Section 4. ">> >> I want to make sure I understand it correctly.  If you transfer out space via 8.2/8.3/8.4, does this restriction mean you just can't receive space via the waiting list for 12 months, or via any mechanism (waiting list/transfer) for 12 months?  I think it means from the waiting list only, but want to be sure.>> > > That is correct - note the phrase “...under this section...” in the proposal text. > > Thanks,> > -Chris> > >> Tom>> >> >> >> ---- On Sat, 02 Mar 2019 13:48:01 -0500 Chris Woodfield <chris at semihuman.com> wrote ---->> >> Speaking as the policy author, I’ll make two points:>> >> 1. I’m aware that given the other discussions around waiting list policy that are ongoing, this proposal may well be rendered moot by future policy changes. I still believe that this is worth pursuing as there’s a current need for clarification and increased disincentives for bad behavior today.>> 2. I’m deliberately killing two not-terribly-related birds with one stone with this proposal, based on the fact that the two issues noted from the PER can be addressed by adding language to the same NRPM text. Happy to consider severing them if the community prefers.>> >> Thanks,>> >> -Chris>> >>> On Mar 2, 2019, at 9:33 AM, hostmaster at uneedus.com wrote:>>> >>> I think it is time to start the ball on the other policies.>>> >>> +1 on this. It seems focused on those gathering resources to resell.>>> >>> Albert Erdmann>>> Network Administrator>>> Paradise On Line Inc.>> t info at arin.net if you experience any issues.>> >> > > _______________________________________________> ARIN-PPML> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to> the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML at arin.net).> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues._______________________________________________ARIN-PPMLYou are receiving this message because you are subscribed tothe ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML at arin.net).Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppmlPlease contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues.
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