[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2019-2: Waiting List Block Size Restriction

theone at uneedus.com theone at uneedus.com
Sat Mar 2 18:21:06 EST 2019

DMCA complaints belong to my customers hosting a website and not to me.

I do not monitor what websites my customers choose to host on their 
individual instance of Apache Web Server on their assigned IP address, nor 
do I disable individual websites.  Ideally I will SWIP each IP to that 
customer so I am not in the DMCA reporting path AT ALL.  If I cannot, I 
will still send the report to the customer for resolution and not deal 
with it myself.

If my customer does not properly deal with the DMCA complaint properly, 
my answer is to disable that customer and they can find someone else to 
provide their hosting.  Its right there in their contract.

While you are right that I can have these many sites all on the same IP, 
the amount of time I would have to spend on central management to do so is 
grossly greater than the cost of the required customer IP addresses, which 
of course is already passed onto the customer anyway.  Just the time for 
determining who is responsible for a single DMCA complaint is enough to 
pay for the one per customer IP address. With proper SWIP management DMCA 
bypasses my desk completely.  I am not responsible to cram as many sites 
and customers onto a single IP in order to make room for others who want 
to stay with IPv4. Each Customer also gets an IPv6 address, and an "AAAA" 
record if they choose to use our DNS.  IPv4 addresses are offered because 
the market currently requires it.  Maybe some day I can operate IPv6 only.

Albert Erdmann
Network Administrator
Paradise On Line Inc.

On Sat, 2 Mar 2019, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:

> In message <Pine.LNX.4.64.1903021604370.3734 at localhost.localdomain>,
> hostmaster at uneedus.com wrote:
>> Many hosting and access providers like to give each paying customer their
>> own IPv4 address, since it simplifies DMCA compliance.
> No, it doesn't.
> If I have a web server that's configured to serve up pages for 1,000
> different web sites, and I get a DMCA complaint about one in particular,
> I can disable that one alone.
> Is this not self-evident?
>> Otherwise the
>> hosting provider needs to get into the middle of keeping logs for every
>> customer.
> No, you don't.
> I frankly don't know what you are going on about.  How do logs even enter
> into this?
> If a DMCA complaint comes in, you go and look at the (alleged) offending
> content.  If it appears that it may be a DMCA action, then you action
> either that page or the whole web site, as may suit you.
> How do logs even enter into this?
> They are demonstratably irrelevant.
>> As for NAT and even web hosting, the 64k port limitation is also an issue
>> as pointed out by others.
> No, it isn't.  A web server needs one port (80).  A mail server needs one
> port (25).  A name server needs one port (53).  A /24 block provides nearly
> seventeen *million* IPv4 ports for outbound _client_ use, most or all of
> which should actually be migrated over to IPv6 anyway.
> Regards,
> rfg
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