[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2019-4: Allow Inter-regional IPv6 Resource Transfers

[David Farmer]

As one of the shepherds for this policy, beyond support for the policy as
written, I'm interested to hear if there is support for the use case Jordi
describes?

The use case Jordi describes seems meaningfully different than the use case
described in the original problem statement. It seems plausible that there
are resolutions, other than the transfer of IPv6, to the RPKI issues
described in the current problem statement. However, for the use
case that Jordi describes, some kind of the inter-RIR M&A transfer, the
transfer of IPv6 resources seems like it could be reasonable, even if the
RPKI issues are resolved by means other than this policy.

So, should Jordi's use case be included in addition to the current problem
statement?

Are there other use cases for the inter-RIR transfer of IPv6 resources that
should be considered in the problem statement as well?

Thanks.


On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 4:46 PM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ARIN-PPML <
arin-ppml at arin.net> wrote:

> In favor of the proposal.
>
> My point of view is on the other way around.
>
> This policy is needed, because if there is a company under an M&A or
> reorganization, it seems clear that then it is transferred IPv4, IPv6, ASN.
> But there may be cases where is not entirely failing into that category.
>
> For example, a "relocation". A company having VMs in data centers, in
> Europe (with resources from RIPE NCC) and moving to US (for whatever
> reasons). I don't expect they will renumber the VMs, they will just copy &
> synchronize the VMs and switch off the old VMs.
>
> It will not make sense to tell them "you can transfer" your IPv4
> resources, but you need to renumber IPv6.
>
> There may be other cases which similar needs.
>
> Regards,
> Jordi
>
>
>
> El 26/3/19 22:35, "ARIN-PPML en nombre de John Santos" <
> arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net en nombre de john at egh.com> escribió:
>
>
>     On 3/26/2019 3:52 PM, ARIN wrote:
>     > There is an operational need to allow RIR transfers of IPv6
> resources
>     > between RIRs with an equivalent transfer policy. ARIN’s RPKI Trust
>     > Anchor (TA) is measurably less widely deployed than TAs from other
>     > RIRs. As a consequence, RPKI ROAs published through ARIN offer less
>     > value. Operators seeking to extract the most value from their
>     > investment in IPv6 would benefit from the ability to transfer IPv6
>     > resources to RIRs with more widely deployed RPKI Trust Anchors.
>     Wouldn't it make more sense to increase the deployment of RPKI in the
>     ARIN region than to open this can of worms?
>
>     --
>     John Santos
>     Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.
>     781-861-0670 ext 539
>
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