[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2019-10: Inter-RIR M&A

[Fernando Frediani]

Well said !

On 18/06/2019 13:53, hostmaster at uneedus.com wrote:
> The main problem I see is that this policy for the first time will 
> open the door up to IPv6 transfers.  I do not agree with IPv6 transfers.
Me either
>
> Up to this point, the primary reason why we allow transfers of IPv4 
> and 16 bit ASN numbers is the shortage of these resources.
>
> In the case of IPv6 addresses, there is no shortage, therefore I do 
> not think we need to be going down that road.
Exactly.
>
> If the policy was limited to IPv4 and 16 bit ASN's, I would not have a 
> problem if indeed the business has moved to another region.  However, 
> I do not want to see this policy being used for forum shopping. I do 
> not want to see the "I do not like the policies of RIR A, so I am 
> taking my ball (and my numbers) to RIR B"

That seems to be the environment some people seems to be trying to turn 
things into. Kind of "It is like this now", "The market demands", 
"People ask for it", while in true is is only in the interest of a small 
part of them.

But the argument of people not liking the policies of RIR A willing to 
move to RIR B is the strongest one in my view. Should never be like this 
in this ecosystem.

>
> Albert Erdmann
> Network Administrator
> Paradise On Line Inc.
>
>
> On Tue, 18 Jun 2019, Chris Woodfield wrote:
>
>> Hello PPML,
>>
>> The Advisory Council is seeking statements of support or opposition 
>> to the below draft policy, which so far have not been seen on PPML. 
>> I’d advise the community to consider the following questions:
>>
>> 1. Is the problem statement a valid and/or likely occurrence that 
>> would require a change of policy to address?
>> 2. Is the proposed text to address the problem statement a valid 
>> means to do so? Are there other approaches the community would like 
>> the AC to consider?
>> 3. Is there any potential deleterious impact should this language be 
>> adopted into the NRPM?
>>
>> We look forward to hearing the community’s response.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> -Chris Woodfield
>> ARIN Advisory Council
>>
>>> On May 21, 2019, at 11:01 AM, ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 16 May 2019, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) accepted 
>>> "ARIN-prop-270: Inter-RIR M&A" as a Draft Policy.
>>>
>>> Draft Policy ARIN-2019-10 is below and can be found at:
>>> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2019_10/
>>>
>>> You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC 
>>> will evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of 
>>> this draft policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource 
>>> policy as stated in the Policy Development Process (PDP). 
>>> Specifically, these principles are:
>>>
>>> * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
>>> * Technically Sound
>>> * Supported by the Community
>>>
>>> The PDP can be found at:
>>> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/
>>>
>>> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
>>> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Sean Hopkins
>>> Policy Analyst
>>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Draft Policy ARIN-2019-10: Inter-RIR M&A
>>>
>>> Problem Statement:
>>>
>>> Merger, acquisition, or reorganization activity sometimes results in 
>>> a restructuring where company resources, the management of number 
>>> resources, or the use of number resources are concentrated outside 
>>> the ARIN service region. In this case it may be desirable for the 
>>> current legal entity or a legal entity that is a parent, child or 
>>> sister to move the servicing of the number resources to a different 
>>> RIR.
>>>
>>> Example:
>>>
>>> Imagine a case where a global company has decided to discontinue 
>>> service in the ARIN service region (shuttering ARIN region offices 
>>> laying off ARIN region employees, and canceling ARIN region 
>>> customers) and repurpose the network resources and number resources 
>>> in the rest of its global footprint.
>>>
>>> Imagine a case where a global company has decided to divest its 
>>> service in the ARIN region (selling all ARIN region offices, all 
>>> ARIN region network assets, all ARIN service region customers, all 
>>> number resources used in the ARIN (associated with previous noted 
>>> sale of network and customers), but retaining ARIN issued resources 
>>> in use outside of the ARIN service region.
>>>
>>> Policy Statement:
>>>
>>> Add to section 8.2:
>>>
>>> When merger, acquisition, or reorganization activity results in 
>>> surviving legal entity that is incorporated outside the ARIN service 
>>> region, or focused outside the ARIN service region, or is merging 
>>> with an organization that already has a relationship with another 
>>> RIR, then resources may be moved to another RIR in accordance with 
>>> the receiving RIR’s policies.
>>>
>>> Comments:
>>>
>>> Timetable for implementation: Immediate
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