[arin-ppml] Looking for final show of support on revised Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests

David Farmer farmer at umn.edu
Fri Jun 7 12:49:56 EDT 2019


I support moving forward with the Advisory Council Recommendation as
written.  That said I do think the recommendations are on the conservative
side, that is, they are somewhat more restrictive than absolutely
necessary, while still being reasonable. The /22 limit is definitely on the
smaller side and based on the data available a /21 or a /20 could also
reasonable alternatives. Further, the 5-year waiting period for resale is
also more restrictive than absolutely necessary. However, this is
intentional, I like the idea of slightly overshooting in response to the
fraud, leaving room to relax the restrictions a little bit in the future
based on the community's consensus.

Therefore to reiterate, I support moving forward with the Advisory Council
Recommendation as written. This restarts distribution from the waiting list
in a timely fashion. Further, I also support the community working to find
consensus on slightly relaxing these new restrictions; I would support /21
or even up to /20 as the maximum distribution size, 2 or 3 years as the
waiting period for resale, and expanding the organization size limit as
high as /18.

However, the idea that organizations are making "business plans" based on
the waiting list seems absurd to me. Serious business plans should be to
obtain IPv4 resources from the market, the market is the only reliable
source of resources at this time. Making a business plan based on the
waiting list is almost like making a business plan based on winning the
lottery, no one would take such a plan seriously, neither should a plan
based on the waiting list be taken seriously. The purpose of the waiting
list is to ensure IP resources are not stuck at ARIN, but they are put to
use by someone. The waiting list also provides an option for those caught
unaware by IPv4 exhaustion, in other words, those without a plan.

Thanks.

On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 12:20 PM John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:

> Folks -
>
> We’ve had excellent discussion of various options for the revised
> “Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests"
>  proposed policy change – some of which is likely to have to further
> informed folks initial views on the matter (as well as on future policy
> proposals in this area), but at this time it is fairly important that we
> receive focused feedback on the revised policy text as written, with due
> consideration to the discussion that has occurred online.
>
> To that end, at this time it would be good to know from everyone:
>
> 1.  Are you in favor of ARIN making the policy change specified in the
> revised  "Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet
> Requests”  ?
>
> (“Yes” obviously indicative that you’d like ARIN to proceed with its
> adoption and resumption of wait list issuance under its revised guidelines,
> and
>  “No” being indicative that you’d rather have the suspension of wait list
> issuance continue unless/until some other policy change in this area
> reaches consensus.)
>
> 2.  If you are not supportive of ARIN making the change specified in the
> revised "Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet
> Requests”,
> is there any modification to the proposed policy change that would enable
> you to support it?
>
> I would ask that PPML participants take a moment to consider the proposed
> policy change as written and please reply regarding the questions above.
>
> Thanks!
> /John
>
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> American Registry for Internet Numbers
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From: *ARIN <info at arin.net>
> *Subject: **[arin-ppml] Revised - Advisory Council Recommendation
> Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests*
> *Date: *24 May 2019 at 1:04:58 PM EDT
> *To: *<arin-ppml at arin.net>
>
> At their 16 May meeting, the Advisory Council revised their recommendation
> regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests.
>
> The revised recommendation is hereby submitted to the Public Policy
> Mailing List for a second community discussion period of 14 days, to
> conclude on 7 June.
>
> Once completed, the Board of Trustees will review the AC’s recommendation
> and the PPML discussion.
>
> The full text of the Advisory Council's revised recommendation is below.
>
> Sean Hopkins
> Policy Analyst
> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>
>
>
> Advisory Council recommendation:
>
> This is an updated version which incorporates feedback from the ARIN staff
> and was approved for further community consultation at the ARIN AC meeting
> on May 16, 2019.
>
> In accordance with section 10.2 of the ARIN Policy Development Process,
> the ARIN Advisory Council recommends the following actions to the Board of
> Trustees in response to the Board’s suspension of part of the operation of
> sections 4.1.8, 4.1.8.1 and 4.1.8.2 of the Numbering Resource Policy Manual:
>
> Replace section 4.1.8 et. seq. as follows, then reinstate the full
> operation of sections 4.1.8, 4.1.8.1 and 4.1.8.2 immediately.
>
> 4.1.8 ARIN Waitlist
>
> ARIN will only issue future IPv4 assignments/allocations (excluding 4.4
> and 4.10 space) from the ARIN Waitlist. The maximum size aggregate that an
> organization may qualify for at any one time is a /22. Organizations will
> be able to elect a smaller block size than they qualify for down to a /24.
> Only organizations holding a /20 or less of IPv4 address space may apply
> and be approved. Address space distributed from the waitlist will not be
> eligible for transfer for a period of 60 months. This policy will be
> applied to all future distributions from the waitlist to include those
> currently listed.
>
> Repeated requests, in a manner that would circumvent 4.1.6, are not
> allowed: an organization currently on the waitlist must wait 90 days after
> receiving a distribution from the waitlist before applying for additional
> space. ARIN, at its sole discretion, may waive this requirement if the
> requester can document a change in circumstances since their last request
> that could not have been reasonably foreseen at the time of the original
> request, and which now justifies additional space. Qualified requesters
> whose request will also be advised of the availability of the transfer
> mechanism in section 8.3 as an alternative mechanism to obtain IPv4
> addresses.
>
> 4.1.8.1 Sequencing
>
> The position of each qualified request on the waiting list will be
> determined by the date it was approved. Each organization may have one
> approved request on the waiting list at a time.
>
> 4.1.8.2 Fulfillment
>
> ARIN will fulfill requests on a first-approved basis, subject to the size
> of each available address block as address blocks become available for
> distribution. A timely review of the original request may be conducted by
> ARIN staff. Requests will not be partially filled. Any requests met through
> a transfer will be considered fulfilled and removed from the waiting list.
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