[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2019-17: Returned Addresses to the 4.10 Reserved Pool

Fernando Frediani fhfrediani at gmail.com
Mon Jul 29 11:39:32 EDT 2019


I find it interesting the idea of privileging the pool dedicated to 
facilitate IPv6 Deployment and I also agree with the comments below in 
the sense that it's not very beneficial do most ARIN members due to max 
size, /22, cannot be holding more than a /20.

However one point I couldn't identify is where the new entrants stand in 
this new possible scenario ? Will they only be able to apply under the 
4.10 reserved pool ? If so for a access/broadband ISPs may be easier to 
fit, but not necessarily for other scenarios and types of ISPs. 
Therefore if I didn't miss anything these returned addresses should also 
be able to go to new entrants, not only to 4.10 reserved pool conditions.

Best regards
Fernando Frediani

On 25/07/2019 17:32, Tom Fantacone wrote:
> I found the wording of the Problem Statement on this one a bit 
> confusing. However, after deciphering the effect of the actual policy 
> change I support it.
>
> Essentially, all returned IPv4 space will no longer go to the waiting 
> list but will supplement the 4.10 reserved pool used to enhance IPv6 
> deployment.  This essentially kills off the waiting list.
>
> The recent restrictions placed on the waiting list to reduce fraud 
> have hobbled it to the point where it's not very beneficial to most 
> ARIN members.  (Max size, /22, cannot be holding more than a /20).  
> It's essentially only useful to new entrants, but those that go on it 
> still have to wait many months to receive their small allocation.  If 
> they justify need now, but have to wait that long, how critical is 
> their need if they're willing to wait that long?  Small blocks are not 
> terribly expensive and can be quickly gotten on the transfer market.  
> I can understand waiting that long for a large block needed for a 
> longer term project due to prohibitive cost, but I don't see a great 
> benefit to the waiting list as it stands.
>
> Also, if there's any fraud left on the waiting list, this would kill it.
>
> I would hope, however, that if implemented, those currently on the 
> waiting list would be grandfathered in.  I do think some entities with 
> legitimate need got burned on the last change made to the waiting list.
>
> At 04:05 PM 7/23/2019, ARIN wrote:
>> On 18 July 2019, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) accepted 
>> "ARIN-prop-276: Returned Addresses to the 4.10 Reserved Pool" as a 
>> Draft Policy.
>>
>> Draft Policy ARIN-2019-17 is below and can be found at:
>>
>> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2019_17/
>>
>> You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will 
>> evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this 
>> draft policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource 
>> policy as stated in the Policy Development Process (PDP). 
>> Specifically, these principles are:
>>
>> * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
>> * Technically Sound
>> * Supported by the Community
>>
>> The PDP can be found at:
>> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/
>>
>> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
>> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Sean Hopkins
>> Policy Analyst
>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>>
>> Draft Policy ARIN-2019-17: Returned Addresses to the 4.10 Reserved Pool
>>
>> Problem Statement:
>>
>> An inconsistent and unpredictable stream of address space is an 
>> unsuitable method of populating the waiting list (4.1.8.1) and 
>> fulfilling subsequent requests.
>>
>> Policy statement:
>>
>> Change "4.10. Dedicated IPv4 Block to Facilitate IPv6 Deployment" to 
>> "4.10 Dedicated IPv4 Pool to Facilitate IPv6 Deployment"
>>
>> Change" When ARIN receives its last /8 IPv4 allocation from IANA, a 
>> contiguous /10 IPv4 block will be set aside and dedicated to 
>> facilitate IPv6 deployment. Allocations and assignments from this 
>> block " to "In addition to the contiguous /10 IPv4 block set aside 
>> and dedicated to facilitate IPv6 deployment, all returns and 
>> revocations of IPv4  blocks will be added to the pool of space 
>> dedicated to the facilitation of IPv6 deployment. Allocations and 
>> assignments from this pool "
>>
>> Change "This block will be subject to a minimum size allocation of 
>> /28 and a maximum size allocation of /24. ARIN should use sparse 
>> allocation when possible within that /10 block." to "This pool will 
>> be subject to a minimum size allocation of /28 and a maximum sized 
>> allocation of /24. ARIN should use sparse allocation when possible 
>> within the pool."
>>
>> Comments:
>>
>> Timetable for implementation: Immediate
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