[arin-ppml] Draft Policy 2019-8 Clarification of Section 4.10 for Multiple Discrete Networks

Nick Bogle nick at ionswitch.com
Mon Jul 15 15:46:46 EDT 2019

I am in favor of this change. As a company that has multiple discrete
networks that have no realistic way of connecting them, one site gets
NAT64, then another site gets NAT64, but each site has to wait 6 months
before getting this capability. No one is going to realistically announce
less than a /24, so multiple /24 allocations one per network makes a lot of
sense to me.

On Mon, Jul 15, 2019, 11:44 AM Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:

> Hello, everyone.
> The AC is currently considering this draft policy which would provide for
> Multiple Discrete Networks to be able to get more than one block under 4.10
> for up to 8 discrete sites within a six month period.
> So far, there has been little comment on the list. The AC would like to
> encourage feedback whether positive or negative in nature about this
> proposal (though always constructive in any case).
> Thanks,
> Owen
> Proposal text:
> Problem Statement:
> Currently, applicants for IPv4 resources under section 4.10 of the NRPM
> who do so under a single OrgID of the NRPM may only obtain one /24 every
> six months for the OrgID, even in the case where multiple discrete networks
> (MDNs) as defined in section 4.5 of the NRPM are grouped under that OrgID.
> On the other hand, where MDNs are held under different OrgIDs associated
> the same entity, the six-month constraint would apply to each discrete
> network separately. This results in unfair allocations of resources based
> solely on how entities choose to associate MDNs with their OrgIDs. This
> policy rectifies that problem by placing MDNs on an equal footing for the
> purpose of section 4.10 allocations regardless of how they are grouped by
> OrgID by the same ultimate entity.
> Policy Statement:
> Bullet 1. under section 4.10 of the NRPM is amended to read:
> the applicant may not have received resources under this policy in the
> preceding six months, except to the extent that the applicant is r
> equesting resources for a discrete network in respect of which it has not
> received any resources under this policy in the preceding six months;
> Add a new bullet 6 that reads:
> An applicant requesting multiple allocations under this policy to support
> Multiple Discrete Networks, as defined under Section 4.5, may not receive
> more than the equivalent of a /21 of IPv4 address space in any one
> six-month period hereunder.
> Timetable for Implementation: Immediate
> Anything Else:
> To what extent should the passage of this policy be contingent or
> independent of whether any ultimate cap is imposed on the total quantity of
> IPv4 resources that an entity can obtain under section 4.10 regardless of
> the number of OrgIDs associated with the entity or number of MDNs it holds.
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