[arin-ppml] Revised/Retitled - Draft Policy ARIN-2019-5: Validation of POCs Referenced as Abuse Contacts

JORDI PALET MARTINEZ jordi.palet at consulintel.es
Tue Jul 16 17:03:00 EDT 2019


 

El 16/7/19 19:27, "Scott Leibrand" <scottleibrand at gmail.com> escribió:

 

Ok, glad to hear the intent regarding automated processing is closer to what I would consider appropriate.

 

How about:

 

"All emails sent to this address must be processed appropriately, ultimately reaching a human processor who evaluates each message that cannot be appropriately handled by any automated systems."

 

That looks perfect to me! Thanks!

 

And what about the requirement that "That the mailbox is regularly monitored and that abuse reports receive a response."? What kind of response is intended there? It seems to imply something more than the "initial automatic processing" mentioned earlier.

 

If you have a system that process automatically as many as possible abuse cases including some kind of automatic response to the ticket once the case is closed, and then you rely the remaining ones to a mailbox, there is a need to have someone monitoring that one, right ? Because the automated system has not been able to “resolve” the case, was not able to “respond” about that closure of the case, so I expect that the human behind that case is then manually triggering a response.

 

This is actually also the way I see the validation will work. Because it is not an abuse report, if nobody is checking the “to be manually handled cases” the validation will not be completed and will need to be escalated to other contacts. For example, the employee that was taking of those manual tickets is no longer in the company, and nobody realized to modify that contact.

 

 

-Scott

 

On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 10:05 AM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml at arin.net> wrote:

Hi Scott,

 

I guess there is some misunderstanding in that part of the text. May be “ultimately” is not doing the intended “work”. The idea is “last resort”.

 

The idea is not that messages are processed only by humans. If it can be automatically processed that’s fine and perfect. The goal is that if “that doesn’t work” then somebody need to take care of it.

 

See 3.6.6.3:

2. Avoids exclusively automated processing.

 

 

Regards,

Jordi

@jordipalet

 

 

 

El 16/7/19 18:39, "ARIN-PPML en nombre de Scott Leibrand" <arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net en nombre de scottleibrand at gmail.com> escribió:

 

Strongly opposed as written.

 

This policy would require that all "abuse reports receive a response" from "a human processor who evaluates each message received", which constitutes an inappropriate interference in the business operations of ISPs, and presents a denial of service vector.  There are many entirely appropriate automated actions that well-run ISPs take in response to abuse reports that don't involve "a human processor who evaluates each message received", and don't necessarily require a response to the original reporter.  The first project I undertook at my first job was writing a mostly-automated abuse processing system that properly dealt with all incoming abuse@ email, but would not be compliant with this policy language as written because it took fully automated action when appropriate.

 

If you want to impose such onerous requirements on ISPs, the appropriate method to do so is via legislation (as was done for the DMCA), not by ARIN number resource administration policy.

 

-Scott

 

On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 8:29 AM ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:

The following has been revised and retitled:

* Draft Policy ARIN-2019-5: Validation of POCs Referenced as Abuse Contacts

Formerly:

* Draft Policy ARIN-2019-5: Validation of Abuse-mailbox

Revised text is below and can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2019_5/

You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will 
evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this draft 
policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as 
stated in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these 
principles are:

* Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
* Technically Sound
* Supported by the Community

The PDP can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/

Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/

Regards,

Sean Hopkins
Policy Analyst
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)



Draft Policy ARIN-2019-5: Validation of POCs Referenced as Abuse Contacts

Problem Statement:

The current policy, “3.6. Annual Validation of ARIN’s Public Whois Point 
of Contact Data” does not provide sufficient validation of the actual 
availablility of the abuse mailbox.

As a result, some resource-holders (LIRs and end-users) might not keep 
this contact information up to date, or might use a non-responsive 
mailbox which may be full or not actively monitored. Some may even 
respond only to ARIN emails.

In practice, this contact becomes ineffective for reporting abuse and 
generally gives rise to security issues and costs for the victims.

Furthermore, POCs are verified only every year and provide a very 
relaxed response time (60 days).

Finally, the proposal seeks to standardize the abuse-c/abuse-mailbox as 
a pointer to an actual abuse POC in order to facilitate development of 
tools that can work across regions.

Proposed Policy Statement:

Add to section 3.6 of the NRPM as follows:

3.6.6 Policies specific to Abuse Contacts

3.6.6.1 Abuse Contact Information

The Abuse Contact will reference a POC object holding Abuse contact 
information. Each org must have an Abuse Contact. Optionally, resource 
records may point directly to an Abuse Contact as an override to the 
corresponding organizational Abuse Contact specific to that resource.

3.6.6.2 Email Addresses in POCs used as Abuse Contacts

Emails sent to this address must ultimately reach a human processor who 
evaluates each message received.

Messages cannot be automatically filtered because legitimate abuse 
reports may include contents which would trigger such filters.

Reports to this mailbox may undergo initial automatic processing for the 
following purposes:

* An automated reply assigning a ticket number, applying classification 
procedures, etc.
* An indication of the required information for an abuse report to be 
processed, such as pertinent logs, copy of the spam message with full 
headers, or any other relevant evidence of abuse.
* The intent is to facilitate automated abuse reporting in consistent 
formats lowering cost for both victims and those processing legitimate 
abuse reports.

3.6.6.3 Abuse Contact Validation Objectives Staff must develop a 
validation procedure which accomplishes all of the following objectives:

1. A simple process which allows POCs to validate that the validation 
request is actually from ARIN.
2. Avoids exclusively automated processing.
3. Confirms that the person performing the validation understands the 
procedure and relevant policies. That the mailbox is regularly monitored 
and that abuse reports receive a response.
4. Maximum validation period is 15 days.
5. If validation fails, escalate to the LIR for an additional 15 days.

The initial and escalation validation periods may be modified by ARIN 
staff, if deemed appropriate. In such a case, the community shall be 
notified at least 5 days prior to implementation of the change (at least 
via arin-announce and arin-ppml) including the rationale for the change.

3.6.6.4 Validation of Abuse Contacts

ARIN will validate that the email listed in each POC referenced as an 
abuse contact for one or more ORG or Resource records under any of the 
following circumstances:

* When the POC record is created or first referenced as an Abuse POC.
* When a referenced POC record is updated.
* No less than every 6 months
* At any other time ARIN staff deems necessary

3.6.6.5 Escalation to ARIN

To avoid fraudulent behavior (for example an email address that responds 
only to ARIN emails or emails with a specific subject or content), or 
failure to comply with other aspects of this policy, ARIN designates to 
receive reports and to escalate any such situations. This will allow for 
re-validation (per section 3.6.6.4) and even intervention by ARIN and, 
where appropriate the application of the relevant policies, procedures, 
or contractual requirements.
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