[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2019-10: Inter-RIR M&A - Seeking Community Comments

Tue Jul 16 01:59:39 EDT 2019

Same as in IPv4. If course the difference is the size of the blocks received from IANA, but this is comparative to the order of magnitude difference between IPv4 and IPv6.

Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet

El 16/7/19 5:18, "arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net en nombre de hostmaster at uneedus.com" <arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net en nombre de hostmaster at uneedus.com> escribió:

    I will take a stab at what this means.

    I am choosing the block containing my IPv6 addresses as an example. If you 
    go to the ARIN whois site and look up network NET6-2600, you will see that 
    this network range is 2600::  to 260f:ffff:ffff:ffff:ffff:ffff:ffff:ffff. 
    This network is otherwise stated as 2600::/12., and shows that it is 
    assigned to ARIN by IANA.  IANA always assigns blocks of IPv6 addresses to 
    RIR's in /12 blocks.

    A link to this is https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET6-2600-1

    This means the ENTIRE BLOCK has been assigned to ARIN, and therefore ARIN 
    controls the reverse DNS of this entire block.

    ARIN allocates portions of this block to LIR's or ISP's and provides a 
    pointer to the DNS servers designated by the entities that have been 
    allocated the IPv6 blocks contained within the larger /12 block.

    If RIR transfers were permitted, ARIN would have to give control of the 
    transfered addresses within this block to the RIR(s) involved and would no 
    longer control the entire block. PKI also follows from top to bottom and 
    may not work properly if portions of the block are assigned to different 
    RIR(s).

    More generically, I would call this "ARIN giving up control of portions of 
    the Reverse DNS zones to another RIR."  It breaks the block apart, thus 
    the poster's term "fracturing".

    I believe that ARIN should maintain control of 100% of each IPv6 block 
    that it receives from IANA.  I can understand the term "fracturing" being 
    used to describe what would happen to IPv6 blocks received from IANA, if 
    ARIN gave up control of specific addresses contained within that block to 
    another RIR.  If someone wants to receive IPv6 addresses from another RIR, 
    I believe that they need to renumber into a block belonging to that RIR.

    Generally ARIN (and other RIR's) use what is called "sparse allocation" 
    when allocating IPv6 blocks.  This means that addresses before and after 
    each allocation are left vacant, so that a specific allocation can be made 
    larger without having to allocate more than one block of addresses, 
    controlling the growth of the routing tables.  Instead, the existing block 
    is made larger.  For example a /35 might be expanded to a /32, and this 
    was done when the policy was changed to allocate ISP's a /32 by default, 
    and this way the addresses continue to remain in a single block of a 
    larger size.

    Albert Erdmann
    Network Administrator
    Paradise On Line Inc.

    On Tue, 16 Jul 2019, Job Snijders wrote:

    > Dear Fernando,
    >
    > On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 08:13:12PM -0300, Fernando Frediani wrote:
    >> I will comment only in one of the points, the other I believe are
    >> really well explained by others and it doesn't seem good to 'rain on
    >> the wet floor'.
    >
    > I'm sorry but I don't think we can skip over some of these "objections"
    > without further substantiation on what the terminology actually means.
    >
    > The term "fracturing the Reverse DNS zone" was coined just a few hours
    > ago and I don't think most people have any idea what it means. At least
    > I don't! :-)
    >
    > I googled the term "fractured DNS", and from what I understand it is a
    > term used in context of alternative DNS roots (DNS roots other than
    > the ICANN/IANA root most of us use). I fail to see what "fractured DNS"
    > might mean in our current context of inter-RIR IPv6 transfers.
    >
    > Kind regards,
    >
    > Job
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