[arin-ppml] Proposed update for ARIN-2017-12

Marilson Mapa marilson.mapa at gmail.com
Thu Jan 31 01:17:51 EST 2019

I have no interest in the ARIN Privacy Policy and no one is discussing it.

I am not against privacy. If you want to fill out a WHOIS with REDACTED FOR
PRIVACY or Registrant WhoisGuard, whatever, fine, do not see any problem.
But the ISPs' AUPs, ToSs and ASPs must to be indeed a useful tool and not a
decorative piece. You all need to take responsibility whenever the tools
you provide are used in an unlawful manner. Now, nobody is responsible for
anything, the non-imputability is widespread and then, they shove down into
our throats a WHOIS full of REDACTED FOR PRIVACY... Sirs, you're playing
gods! And insulting people's intelligence.

All of you are playing gods but are much weaker than think. Let me give you
an example: A newly graduated young judge, working in the confines of the
Amazon jungle, has enough strength to stop, for example, one of the richest
men on the planet and their Facebook. All he needs is a pen and a few

The Draft Policy in question is very vague and does not give me the
information that interests me. I abstain.


Em qua, 30 de jan de 2019 às 15:13, David Farmer <farmer at umn.edu> escreveu:

> Marilson,
> ARIN's privacy policy is at;
> https://www.arin.net/privacy.html
> One of the privacy principles listed on this page is "ARIN obtains
> personal data only for specific lawful purposes and by consent of the
> individual"
> I believe the statement I made, "I think ARIN separate from number policy
> reasons would want to ensure that POCs themselves approved or are at least
> notified when a database entry is made for them as an individual," is
> consistent with that privacy principle and the rest of ARIN's privacy
> policy.
> Furthermore, I think in the last few years the privacy of an individual's
> personal data, especially on the Internet, is of concern across the
> political spectrum. I was merely using GDPR as an example of this concern,
> I did not mean to imply that it directly applies to ARIN or that we should
> be concerned with its specific provisions. Nevertheless, maintaining some
> level of privacy, or control of data about yourself, is an important
> concern of everyone.
> Finally, my overall point was that, while this policy is tangentially
> related to these privacy issues, they are not directly a subject of the new
> policy test that is proposed.
> As one of the shepherds for this policy, I would appreciate hearing any
> comments that you have directly on the point of policy or the policy text
> that has been proposed.
> Thank you.
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 9:52 AM Marilson Mapa <marilson.mapa at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> As requested, I will rewrite the text by withdrawing all the compliments
>> I have given to the American Nation:
>> When I read *But given GDPR and the general focus on privacy these
>> days...* I can only see one word: subservience. So, I have a question: Will
>> GDPR dictate your actions? If so, I will be against all privacy-related
>> policies.
>> Marilson
>> Em qua, 30 de jan de 2019 às 10:57, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net>
>> escreveu:
>>> On 30 Jan 2019, at 12:59 AM, Marilson Mapa <marilson.mapa at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> ...
>>> When I read *But given GDPR and the general focus on privacy these
>>> days...* I can only see one word: subservience. The GDPR is a work of the
>>> European Union Socialist Republic. The EU has used American liberal
>>> capitalism to achieve a good standard of living.. But an army of socialists
>>> has taken over the EU and will raze their economies as they always do when
>>> they see themselves as capable of doing better than the capitalist
>>> individual.
>>> It seems that the only American who understands this situation and has
>>> the balls to face these socialist parasites is Trump. I also have a
>>> question: Will GDPR dictate your actions?
>>> Marilson
>>> Marilson -
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>>> lists, please refer to the ARIN Appropriate Usage Policy (AUP) -
>>> https://www.arin.net/participate/mailing_lists/aup.html
>>> Thanks!
>>> /John
>>> John Curran
>>> President and CEO
>>> American Registry for Internet Numbers
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