[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2019-2: Waiting List Block Size Restriction
farmer at umn.edu
Thu Feb 28 11:13:19 EST 2019
On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 10:51 PM Ronald F. Guilmette <rfg at tristatelogic.com>
> In message <Pine.LNX.4.64.1902271845490.31881 at localhost.localdomain>,
> hostmaster at uneedus.com wrote:
> >Also needed is language that M&A and Bankruptcy transfers of the
> >IPv4 addresses can only happen when they are transferred to a new owner
> >ALONG WITH the underlying network equipment/business using those IPv4
> That may not even be good enough to prevent abuse.
First, the mission of ARIN and the primary goal of its policies is not to
prevent or even limit abuse, the primary goal of ARIN policy is to allocate
resources in support of the operation of the Internet, through policies
that are fair and impartial, technically sound, and supported by the
community that has to abide by them.
Limiting abuse while important and necessary is actually a secondary goal
and the tactics needed to outright prevent abuse are probably run counter
to the primary goal. Remember everything you do to limit bad actors also
creates burdens on the good actors too, so this is always a balancing act.
I not saying good actors should have no burdens, but this is a risk
management exercise. The level of the burden we put on good actors needs to
be commensurate with the risk bad actors represent to ARIN's mission.
ARIN could probably greatly limit abuse by requiring proof of 5-year active
credit history or $10,000 surety bond for all new organizations doing
business with ARIN. But that would create a significant burden for many
legitimate organizations starting out. Good actors and bad actors look
pretty much the same at first, it takes multiple interactions to develop a
pattern that could confirm any suspicions that an entity is a bad actor.
Nobody should ever underestimate the creativity of financially motivated
> and ethically bankrupt actors.
I'm not, but punishing those bad actors is not ARIN's role in society. ARIN
needs to manage the risk they represent to ARIN's mission and support those
that society has charged with dealing with them, generally law enforcement.
> Microsoft used to sell certain Windows licenses with the stiputaion that
> they were only to be used in conjunction with new computers.
> It didn't take long for the bottom feeders to start reselling said
> Windows licenses along with one of the following "new computers":
David Farmer Email:farmer at umn.edu
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