[arin-ppml] Open Petition for ARIN-prop-266: BGP Hijacking is an ARIN Policy Violation

JORDI PALET MARTINEZ jordi.palet at consulintel.es
Fri Apr 26 16:54:48 EDT 2019

Hi Owen,

So, you believe that if an ARIN member is repeatedly misusing the resources from another member, is just fine and the ARIN membership which rules are the policies, should not care about this behavior and members should not get their exclusive rights to use their allocated resources protected by policies?

In other words. Will you at least support something in the line of:
"The resources are allocated for the exclusive use of the recipient. Consequently, other members can't use them (unless authorized by the legitimate resource-holder) and not following this rule is a policy violation".


El 26/4/19 22:34, "ARIN-PPML en nombre de Owen DeLong" <arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net en nombre de owen at delong.com> escribió:

    Speaking only in my role as a member of the community and not in any way representing the AC...
    I do not support the petition. 
    There is always tension on the border between what is in scope of ARIN policy as regards running the registry and providing good stewardship of community resources vs. interfering in the operations of the internet (e.g. being the routing police). 
    While ARIN has a history of minimum allocation sizes in part dictated by community concerns over routing table growth, that is no longer the case. The current minimums reflect ARIN’s DNS and RPKI based limitations. 
    Another thing to consider is that ARIN policies only apply to those entities receiving resources from ARIN and in some cases by extension to those they grant resources to through reallocation or reassignment. 
    People hijacking prefixes, generally, are operating outside of those parameters to begin with, so it’s not really clear to me how such a policy provides any benefit in combatting the situation. 
    Instead, it creates an appearance that ARIN has some role as arbiter of the routing tables which is not only well outside of ARIN’s mandate, but also nearly impossible for ARIN to fulfill. 
    I believe the proposal is out of scope, but even if it were somehow considered in scope, I see no way in which it provides anything but additional risk to the organization while failing to offer any actual benefit to the community. 
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