[arin-ppml] LAST CALL - Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2017-12: POC Notification and Validation Upon Reassignment or Reallocation

David Farmer farmer at umn.edu
Wed Apr 24 15:51:38 EDT 2019


To expand on Andrew's response a little;

This would affect all detailed reassignments or reallocations, requiring
the organization and POC records to pre-exist in the database. With a
likely outcome, that fewer detailed reassignments and more simple
reassignments will be made especially for /29 or shorter IPv4 reassignments.

This works closely with a companion policy, ARIN-2019-5: Disallow
Third-party Organization Record Creation, to ensures only authorized
representatives of an organization are allowed to initiate the creation of
an organization record for the organization.   Again with the likely
outcome, that there will be fewer detailed reassignments and more simple
reassignments ending up in the database. With the detailed reassignments or
reallocations that are put in the database being authorized by the
organization in question, and therefore are more likely to have valid and
accurate POC records.

The current system where ISPs create organizations with new POC records
seeming every time they make a reassignment has lead to significant
duplicative, inaccurate, and irrelevant records being put into the
database.  This increases the volume of information in the database but
seems to significantly decrease the overall accuracy of the information in
the database.

So, yes this is expected to result in more simple reassignments of /29 or
smaller for IPv4 and fewer detailed reassignments for such, but with more
accuracy for the detailed reassignments that are made.

Hope that helps.


On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 1:13 PM Andrew Dul <andrew.dul at quark.net> wrote:

> You are correct, this policy change only affects detailed-reassignments
> and reallocations.  Simple-reassignments do not have POC records associated
> with them.
>
> Andrew
>
> On 4/24/2019 10:18 AM, Andrew Bagrin wrote:
>
> I'm sorry if I missed this somewhere, but this does not affect simple
> reassignment of /29 or smaller, correct?
>
> Thanks,
> Andrew
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 10:58 PM Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>
>> Support… Implementation ASAP, please.
>>
>> Owen
>>
>>
>> On Apr 22, 2019, at 07:27 , David Farmer <farmer at umn.edu> wrote:
>>
>> There have been relatively few comments on this policy on PPML since the
>> text was revised in late January. Although, it seems to have been well
>> supported at the Barbados meeting.
>>
>> ARIN 43 transcript;
>>
>> https://www.arin.net/vault/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_43/ppm1_transcript.html#anchor_9
>>
>> ARIN 43 Video for presentation;
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxfZ128IqMU
>>
>> ARIN 43 Presentation Slide deck;
>>
>> https://www.arin.net/vault/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_43/PDF/PPM/2017_12_intro.pdf
>>
>> https://www.arin.net/vault/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_43/PDF/PPM/2017_12.pdf
>>
>> It is therefore particularly important for anyone who objects to this
>> policy or thinks this policy will create issues for their organization to
>> speak up during this clast call period.
>>
>> Even if you support the policy, comments regarding the proper timeline
>> for implementation are of interest.  How long will your organization need
>> to adapt to these changes?
>>
>> All comments are appreciated.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> David Farmer
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 1:04 PM ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:
>>
>>> The ARIN Advisory Council (AC) met on 10 April 2019 and decided to send
>>> the following Recommended Draft Policy to Last Call:
>>>
>>> ARIN-2017-12: POC Notification and Validation Upon Reassignment or
>>> Reallocation
>>>
>>> Feedback is encouraged during the Last Call period. All comments should
>>> be provided to the Public Policy Mailing List. Last Call will expire on
>>> 29 April 2019.
>>>
>>> The Recommended Draft Policy text is below and available at:
>>> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/
>>>
>>> The ARIN Policy Development Process is available at:
>>> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Sean Hopkins
>>> Policy Analyst
>>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2017-12: POC Notification and Validation
>>> Upon Reassignment or Reallocation
>>>
>>> AC Assessment of Conformance with the Principles of Internet Number
>>> Resource Policy:
>>>
>>> This recommended draft policy: (1) enables fair and impartial number
>>> administration as it ensures that ARIN has the means to communicate with
>>> organizations receiving reallocations or detailed reassignments, and
>>> does so in a clear, complete, concise and unambiguous manner; (2) is
>>> technically sound in that it supports ARIN’s ability to maintain the
>>> unique registration of Internet number resources; and (3) has community
>>> support.
>>>
>>> Problem Statement:
>>>
>>> Some ISPs assign individuals to be POCs for reassigned blocks without
>>> consultation of the individual they are inserting into Whois. For
>>> example, during the reassignment/reallocation process, some large ISPs
>>> automatically create POCs from their customer’s order form. This process
>>> is automated for many ISPs and therefore the resulting POCs are not
>>> validated prior to being created in the ARIN Whois database. This
>>> creates unknowing POCs that have no idea what Whois is or even who ARIN
>>> is at the time they receive the annual POC validation email. It can also
>>> create multiple POCs per email address causing that same person to
>>> receive a multitude of POC Validation emails each year.
>>>
>>> This policy proposal seeks to prevent the situation where a POC is
>>> unwittingly and unintentionally inserted into Whois. Doing so will
>>> reduce the significant amount of time that ARIN staff spend fielding
>>> phone calls from POCs who have no idea they are in Whois.
>>>
>>> The proposal will improve the overall POC validation situation, by
>>> ensuring that all reallocation or detailed reassignment requests are
>>> related to a pre-existing receiving organization with at least one valid
>>> POC object, and by requesting that any other existing invalid POC
>>> objects are validated.
>>>
>>> Policy statement:
>>>
>>> Insert one new section into NRPM 3:
>>>
>>> 3.7 POC Notification and Validation Upon Reassignment or Reallocation
>>>
>>> When a request for reallocation or detailed reassignment is made to
>>> ARIN, the receiving organization must already be in the ARIN database
>>> and associated with at least one validated POC object. If there are no
>>> validated POC objects associated with the receiving organization, ARIN
>>> shall reject the request.
>>>
>>> In addition to notifying the requester, ARIN will also notify, via
>>> email, all POCs associated with the receiving organization, whether the
>>> request was successful or not, and will request validation of any
>>> invalid POC objects associated with the receiving organization.
>>>
>>> Note: Simple reassignments are made without any linkage to an
>>> organization or POC objects in the ARIN database.
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