[arin-ppml] ARIN Recommended Draft Policy 2017-12

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Wed Sep 26 00:23:03 EDT 2018

While I realize this is not the category of user you were intending to reach out for and while I no longer work for the organizations where I experienced this as a significant problem, I will nonetheless make the following statement…

This policy was conceived and delivered as a reaction to the practice of ISPs creating numerous inaccurate and undesired POC records pointing to random individuals within large organizations who are not in a position to manage said organization’s number resources, often without any knowledge by the entities that actually do manage the organization’s number resources.

Often these POC creations went unnoticed by the entities being placed in the POC record until annual resource verification at which time, the POC was contacted by ARIN, had a WTF moment and (in the best case scenario) contacted the entities that actually manage number resources for assistance in resolving the matter.

Further, the ARN community recommended and the board adopted, though has delayed implementation of a policy which removes annual validation from the majority of these invalid POC records virtually guaranteeing that absent the implementation of 2017-12, there is a near zero probability of these records being detected or corrected going forward.

Given that history, I strongly urge the community to make it clear to the board that this policy is necessary and vital to the accuracy of the whois database and insist that it be implemented.


> On Sep 25, 2018, at 19:32 , Christian Tacit <ctacit at tacitlaw.com> wrote:
> Dear Community Members,
> I am writing in my capacity as one of the two co-shepherds of ARIN Recommended Draft Policy 2017-12 (RDP 2017-12).
> On May 17, 2018, the ARIN AC, having successfully completed the PDP process for RDP 2017-12, recommended its adoption by the Board.
> On July 31, 2018, the Board remanded ARIN RDP 2017-12 to the ARIN AC. Noting the complexity of the policy, the Board wants a more complete policy assessment of technical soundness, and recommended interviews by the AC with ISPs who make numerous delegation requests including those with IP management platforms, if such interviews have not been already conducted.
> Although we are reaching out directly to the top Swipper for feedback, I am also requesting input via PPML from ISPs who make numerous delegation requests including those with IP management platforms.
> In addition, a few of my AC colleagues and I will be available between 10:00 AM and noon, 1:30 PM to 3:30 PM and 4:00 PM to 6:00 PM on each of Monday and Tuesday at NANOG 74 in Vancouver in the Oxford Room to receive feedback. 
> Finally, David Farmer (the other co-shepherd of RDP 2017-12) and I will be present throughout NANOG 74 and ARIN 42, as will a number of other AC members, so please feel free to approach any of us to provide your feedback as well.
> Thank you.
> Chris Tacit
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