[arin-ppml] ARIN discontinuing DNSSEC capability to legacy holders

Steven Ryerse SRyerse at eclipse-networks.com
Sat Oct 6 19:04:13 EDT 2018

I don't wish to beat a dead horse but the InterNIC didn't have a contract. I still have all of the paperwork I got from them them in the early 90s, and I posted it in this forum for everyone to see several years ago. They basically just asked some questions like what do u want to use the Internet for and then issued me a Class C. As I said the horse is out of the barn on this a long time ago so I don't wish to fight about it. I would add the the National Science Foundation along with others funded the Internet using federal tax money. Even though it was a very small percentage of everyone's federal tax money that was used by the NSF, you can't say that the resources everyone got before ARIN was formed were completely free. My two cents.

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On Oct 6, 2018, at 2:59 PM, Jo Rhett <jrhett at netconsonance.com<mailto:jrhett at netconsonance.com>> wrote:

ARIN has real issues to deal with, and the hundred or so resource holders who want to keep stealing the time and effort of everyone involved in ARIN for their little pity party should go away.

On Oct 5, 2018, at 1:35 AM, John Santos <john at egh.com<mailto:john at egh.com>> wrote:
With all due respect, you don't know what you are talking about.

I know in great technical depth what I am talking about. However your statement here proves how little you know. I don't challenge your competence. Be respectful.

You are attributing motives to me and other legacy holders, that are completely false and possibly libelous.

I don't know and haven't spoken to your motives. I am speaking to your request for services delivered without a contract. I encourage you to sue me for libel, since you apparently know so little about the topic you haven't even read the description of it. Don't threaten an intelligent, knowledgeable person with nonsense.

Received my class C from the InterNIC in 1993.  Don't need any more, just need RDNS and am happy to provide POC validation annually, and update my POC records every decade or two when things change, but otherwise require almost nothing from ARIN, so I don't see how I am a "freeloader".

"I want all these services, administrative, technical, and online services... for free, without a contract, without supplying a penny." -- how are you not a freeloader?

Also note that InterNIC had a contract, and it definitely never offered free access to any and all future services not described. You have no basis for getting unending free service without a contract. You've had 25 years to do the right thing, ARIN is old enough to not only vote but have finished a tour in the armed services (far too appropriate a metaphor here) and you can't bring yourself to sign a contract for services? They should stop serving you. Full stop.

Jo Rhett
Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet projects.

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