[arin-ppml] ARIN discontinuing DNSSEC capability to legacy holders

william manning chinese.apricot at gmail.com
Sat Oct 6 18:48:15 EDT 2018

I would be happy to see ARIN follow your advice IF I could take my
registrations elsewhere.  However the DNS is, like it or not, a
natural monopoly.  ARIN has avoided regulation thus far by honoring
the legacy holders assignments.  I concur with Michael that enabling
DNSSEC support for legacy holders is something new, but maintains the
cohesion across the DNS, which is a critical component for workable

As usual, YMMV.  I'm persuaded that ARIN if ARIN offers DNSSEC for any
registrants, it should offer DNSSEC to all registrants.   Contracts
are good, but ARIN has never had or expected 100% of its clients to be
contractually bound to ARIN.  ARIN knew this when it was established
and nothing, fundamentally, has changed.

Ex ARIN board member, One of the first LSRA signers,  DNSSEC early
adopter, now mostly retired.

On 10/6/18, Jo Rhett <jrhett at netconsonance.com> wrote:
>>> ARIN has real issues to deal with, and the hundred or so resource holders
>>> who want to keep stealing the time and effort of everyone involved in
>>> ARIN for their little pity party should go away.
> On Oct 5, 2018, at 1:35 AM, John Santos <john at egh.com> wrote:
>> With all due respect, you don't know what you are talking about.
> I know in great technical depth what I am talking about. However your
> statement here proves how little you know. I don't challenge your
> competence. Be respectful.
>> You are attributing motives to me and other legacy holders, that are
>> completely false and possibly libelous.
> I don't know and haven't spoken to your motives. I am speaking to your
> request for services delivered without a contract. I encourage you to sue me
> for libel, since you apparently know so little about the topic you haven't
> even read the description of it. Don't threaten an intelligent,
> knowledgeable person with nonsense.
>> Received my class C from the InterNIC in 1993.  Don't need any more, just
>> need RDNS and am happy to provide POC validation annually, and update my
>> POC records every decade or two when things change, but otherwise require
>> almost nothing from ARIN, so I don't see how I am a "freeloader".
> "I want all these services, administrative, technical, and online
> services... for free, without a contract, without supplying a penny." -- how
> are you not a freeloader?
> Also note that InterNIC had a contract, and it definitely never offered free
> access to any and all future services not described. You have no basis for
> getting unending free service without a contract. You've had 25 years to do
> the right thing, ARIN is old enough to not only vote but have finished a
> tour in the armed services (far too appropriate a metaphor here) and you
> can't bring yourself to sign a contract for services? They should stop
> serving you. Full stop.
> --
> Jo Rhett
> Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet
> projects.

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