[arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2018-3: Remove Reallocation Requirements for Residential Market Assignments

[Austin Murkland]

+1 Owen;  I agree with this Draft policy.

On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 5:31 PM <hostmaster at uneedus.com> wrote:

> I agree with this Draft policy.
>
> This is clearly a legacy IPv4 policy.  These reallocation requirements
> were put in place to document use of IPv4 resources so that you could ask
> for more.  Without a free pool, this should not be required.
>
> As we move to the future of IPv6, this appears to be an unneeded act, as
> nearly everyone who has applied for IPv6 resources has received a block
> that will last for a very long time, and from what I understand during
> discussion of another proposal last year, no one has had to come back to
> expand their IPv6 block.  Thus, there is no need to publically document
> usage in order to apply for more space.  Thus, the requirement for this
> should be dropped from the NRPM.
>
> Albert Erdmann
> Network Administrator
> Paradise On Line Inc.
>
> On Thu, 26 Jul 2018, Hunter, Kathleen wrote:
>
> > +1 to Owens thoughts on this. I know we will continue to do this even
> after the policy is cleaned.
> >
> > Kat Hunter
> > Comcast LIR
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net> On Behalf Of Owen DeLong
> > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 6:45 AM
> > To: Azinger, Marla <Marla.Azinger at FTR.com>
> > Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
> > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2018-3: Remove
> Reallocation Requirements for Residential Market Assignments
> >
> > I will point out that removing the requirement does not prevent anyone
> from continuing to provide the information. It merely makes it optional
> instead of mandatory.
> >
> > In many cases, the reporting in question is an artifact of policy that
> was specially crafted to aid CMTS-based providers in being able to obtain
> sufficient IP space to actually provision networks while attempting to
> avoid widespread and massive abuse through a gaping policy loophole. Given
> the absence of an IPv4 free pool, that policy is no longer particularly
> applicable and I believe some of it has already been eliminated. As such,
> this is, IMHO, just some additional cleanup of the NRPM to further adapt to
> a post-IPv4 world.
> >
> > Owen
> >
> >
> >> On Jul 25, 2018, at 15:27 , Azinger, Marla <Marla.Azinger at FTR.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> If I read this correct, you would be removing the requirement of public
> records that display not just static re-allocations for a general
> geographic area, but it would also remove Dynamic pool re-allocations.
> >>
> >> If I saw what requirement is being removed correctly, in either respect
> should anyone stop doing those type of Re-allocations, they will receive an
> increase of abuse calls from law enforcement given one layer of useful data
> is being halted.  It also might increase geographic route issues because I
> have come across some companies that sell geo filter software based off
> ARIN records.
> >>
> >> Food for thought
> >> Marla
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net> On Behalf Of ARIN
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 11:06 AM
> >> To: arin-ppml at arin.net
> >> Subject: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2018-3: Remove
> >> Reallocation Requirements for Residential Market Assignments
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >> On 19 July 2018, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) advanced the following
> Draft Policy to Recommended Draft Policy status:
> >>
> >> ARIN-2018-3: Remove Reallocation Requirements for Residential Market
> >> Assignments
> >>
> >> The text of the Recommended Draft Policy is below, and may also be
> found at:
> >>
> >> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2018_3.html
> >>
> >> You are encouraged to discuss all Recommended Draft Policies on PPML
> prior to their presentation at the next ARIN Public Policy Consultation
> (PPC). PPML and PPC discussions are invaluable to the AC when determining
> community consensus.
> >>
> >> The PDP can be found at:
> >> https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
> >>
> >> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
> >> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Sean Hopkins
> >> Policy Analyst
> >> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2018-3: Remove Reallocation Requirements
> >> for Residential Market Assignments
> >>
> >> Advisory Council Statement of Conformance with Principles of Internet
> Number Resource Policy:
> >>
> >> This recommended draft policy is technically sound, creating a fair and
> impartial number policy. The draft policy removes the Residential Market
> Area record keeping and publication requirement placed upon one segment of
> the ISP population for ARIN IPv4 allocations. Since this requirement does
> not apply to IPv4 transfers it is a legacy element of policy sustaining
> administrative overhead for a subset of the community.  No concerns have
> been raised by the community  and there has been demonstrable support since
> its initial proposal.
> >>
> >> Problem Statement:
> >>
> >> Current number policy requires some organizations to create
> reallocations or reassignments for residential subscribers.  This
> requirement complicates record keeping for ISPs.  There is limited value
> today for requiring these records be put into the ARIN database.
> >>
> >> ARIN number policy for a long time has required ISPs to add a
> reallocation or reassignment record for each of their subscriber address
> blocks.  This policy dates from the original cable allocations as a method
> to publicly show that a portion of a larger block has been put into use.
> >>
> >> Since ARIN no longer has a free pool of IPv4 addresses and requirements
> for transfer are demonstrated without these records, this requirement is no
> longer needed.
> >>
> >> Furthermore, this requirement complicates reallocation & reassignment
> entry into the ARIN database.3  Removing this requirement could reduce the
> complexity required for accurately maintaining reallocation and/or
> reassignment records.
> >>
> >> Policy statement:
> >>
> >> Remove Section 4.2.3.7.3.1 (Residential Market Area) from the NRPM
> >>
> >> Comments:
> >>
> >> Timetable for Implementation: Immediate
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