[arin-ppml] IPv6 Transfers (was :Draft Policy ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

Chevy Killa chevykilla.14 at gmail.com
Sat Feb 3 18:10:25 EST 2018

I’ve been trying to leave group for a while, but I’ve been unsuccessful thus far, can someone assist?


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> On Feb 3, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Job Snijders <job at ntt.net> wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 03, 2018 at 10:17:02AM -0800, Scott Leibrand wrote:
>>> On Feb 3, 2018, at 5:12 AM, hostmaster at uneedus.com wrote:
>>> 1) A company is relocating its headquarters from a location served
>>> by an RIR, to another location served by a different RIR, and wants
>>> everything in their new home region.
>>> 2) A company decides to buy another company with few assets, but
>>> holds a 16 bit ASN in another RIR region.  They then want to bring
>>> that ASN back to ARIN so they can add it to their registration plan.
>>> This is similar to M&A of companies with IPv4 addresses as assets,
>>> since they can not get a 16 bit ASN directly from ARIN.
>>> 3) They have so much equipment scattered around the world with the
>>> old ASN, that they do not want to renumber just because their
>>> headquarters moved to a region served by a different RIR.  If the
>>> region moved to is ARIN, in most cases they can save money by
>>> putting the moved ASN on their registration plan with their address
>>> space.
>>> In any case, if ARIN allows transfers, it is highly unlikely that
>>> that policy would ever be applied to anything other than a 16 bit
>>> ASN as there are plenty of 32 bit ASN's available in all regions.
>> All three scenarios apply equally to 16 and 32 bit ASNs. If it’s
>> easier for everyone involved to transfer an ASN between RIRs along
>> with any IPv4 resources, there’s no reason to renumber (which requires
>> cooperation from BGP peers). 
> I'd like to emphasize that renumbering ASNs can be a very cumbersome and
> expensive venture (be it a 16-bit or 32-bit ASN). There are notable
> public examples of M&As where the integration and renumbering of related
> ASNs took years.
> Just because there is no shortage of 32-bit ASNs in another region
> doesn't imply I'd be willing to absorb the cost of renumbering an ASN.
> Kind regards,
> Job
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