[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

Job Snijders job at ntt.net
Thu Feb 1 11:55:54 EST 2018


I do not see a reason to split them out. AS transfers are AS transfers,
I don't think other regions have split them out either. In the end the
motivation to move a resource is secondary to just having a process to
accomodate whatever it is that end users want to do.

Owen DeLong does raise an interesting point regarding IPv6 transfers,
perhaps for feature parity that should be a transferable resource too.
IPv6 transfers would of course be a separate proposal.

Kind regards,


On Thu, Feb 01, 2018 at 08:40:27AM -0800, Owen DeLong wrote:
> IMHO, yes.
> For A), I’m not sure I see the need to support these transactions. We
> don’t support them for IPv6 (nor do I think we want to).  Sales of
> IPv4 addresses were a stop-gap to deal with a situation of scarcity,
> free pool exhaustion, and getting by until v6 is widely enough
> deployed. Hopefully they will eventually go away and we can return to
> more traditional forms of resource management.
> For B), I’m still not convinced. They can’t move their IPv6 resources
> (nor do I think we want to support doing so). The ability to move
> their IPv4 resources is largely an artifact of the same scarcity/free
> pool exhaustion described above. However, my objections to solving
> this particular problem are a bit less than my objections to solving
> problem A).
> Owen
> > On Feb 1, 2018, at 06:51 , WOOD Alison * DAS <Alison.WOOD at oregon.gov> wrote:
> > 
> > Thank you all for the excellent feedback on this draft.
> >  
> > Considering James’ suggestions, would the community prefer to take each point as a different proposal?  They seem to be two different solutions to two different issues.
> >  
> > Thanks!
> >  
> > -Alison
> >  
> > From: ARIN-PPML [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net <mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net>] On Behalf Of james machado
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 12:47 PM
> > To: arin-ppml at arin.net <mailto:arin-ppml at arin.net>
> > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers
> >  
> > So we seem to have 2  "problems" for this draft if I am reading correctly.
> >  
> > A) An Entity wishes to buy/sell/transfer one or more ASN(s) to
> > another Entity without regard of the destination RIR.  
> >  
> > B) Entity with one or more ASN(s) wishes to move one or more ASN(s)
> > to a new RIR, possibly complementing an IP move, to begin/continue
> > operations in the destination RIR.
> >  
> > James

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