[arin-ppml] Revised/Retitled - Draft Policy ARIN-2018-4: Clarification on Temporary Sub-Assignments

Tue Aug 14 12:20:25 EDT 2018

Yes, moving the sentence to the end of the section is probably even a
better solution.

However, looking at the sentence a little more closely. Using reassignment,
or assignment for that matter, twice in the same sentence sounds a little
circular or possibly self-contradictory to me. Also, incidental seems like
a good additional word for describing what we mean in this situation.

in·ci·den·tal
1. accompanying but not a major part of something.
    · occurring by chance in connection with something else.
2. liable to happen as a consequence of (an activity).

tem·po·rar·y
1.
lasting for only a limited period of time; not permanent.

The point is even a permanent but incidental use should not be considered a
reassignment.

So, how about;

Note that the incidental or temporary use of address space by third parties
shall not be considered a reassignment or a violation of the exclusive use
criterion.

Thanks.

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 9:52 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <
jordi.palet at consulintel.es> wrote:

> Unless I’m missing anything (in other regions we have “sub-assignment”), I
> think it works for me.
>
>
>
> May be a way to shorten it is to use the proposed sentence, but after all
> the definitions:
>
>
>
>
>
> 2.5. Allocation, Assignment, Reallocation, Reassignment
>
>
>
> Allocation - Address space delegated to an organization directly by ARIN
> for the purpose of subsequent distribution by the recipient organization to
> other parties.
>
>
>
> Assignment - Address space delegated to an organization directly by ARIN
> for the exclusive use of the recipient organization.
>
>
>
> Reallocation - Address space sub-delegated to an organization by an
> upstream provider for the purpose of subsequent distribution by the
> recipient organization to other parties.
>
>
>
> Reassignment - Address space sub-delegated to an organization by an
> upstream provider for the exclusive use of the recipient organization.
>
>
>
> Note that a temporary reassignment of address space provided to third
> parties shall not be considered a reassignment or a violation of the
> exclusive use criterion.
>
>  Regards,
>
> Jordi
>
> *De: *ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net> en nombre de David Farmer <
> farmer at umn.edu>
> *Fecha: *martes, 14 de agosto de 2018, 8:44
> *Para: *ARIN <info at arin.net>
> *CC: *ARIN-PPML List <arin-ppml at arin.net>
> *Asunto: *Re: [arin-ppml] Revised/Retitled - Draft Policy ARIN-2018-4:
> Clarification on Temporary Sub-Assignments
>
>
>
> Because of recent changes, editorial if I remember correctly, section 2.5
> now reads as;
>
>
>
> 2.5. Allocation, Assignment, Reallocation, Reassignment
>
>
>
> Allocation - Address space delegated to an organization directly by ARIN
> for the purpose of subsequent distribution by the recipient organization to
> other parties.
>
>
>
> Assignment - Address space delegated to an organization directly by ARIN
> for the exclusive use of the recipient organization.
>
>
>
> Reallocation - Address space sub-delegated to an organization by an
> upstream provider for the purpose of subsequent distribution by the
> recipient organization to other parties.
>
>
>
> Reassignment - Address space sub-delegated to an organization by an
> upstream provider for the exclusive use of the recipient organization.
>
>
>
> This proposal essentially adds the following sentence to "Assignment"
> above.
>
>
>
> A temporary assignment of address space provided to third parties shall
> not be considered a reassignment or a violation of the exclusive use
> criterion.
>
>
>
> However, I propose the following minor change to that;
>
>
>
> A temporary reassignment of address space provided to third parties shall
> not be considered a reassignment or a violation of the exclusive use
> criterion.
>
>
>
> Further, the sentence should also apply to "Reassignment". So, does the
> sentence also need to be added to "Reassignment"?  Or maybe add the
> following sentence to "Reassignment";
>
>
>
> Excluding temporary reassignments, as discussed in the
> definition Assignment above.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 12:39 PM, ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:
>
>
> The following has been revised and retitled:
>
> * Draft Policy ARIN-2018-4: Clarification on Temporary Sub-Assignments
>
> Formerly:
>
> * Draft Policy ARIN-2018-4: Clarification on IPv6 Sub-Assignments
>
> Revised text is below and can be found at:
> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2018_4.html
>
> You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will
> evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this draft
> policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated
> in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are:
>
> * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
> * Technically Sound
> * Supported by the Community
>
> The PDP can be found at:
> https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
>
> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html
>
> Regards,
>
> Sean Hopkins
> Policy Analyst
> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>
>
>
> Draft Policy ARIN-2018-4: Clarification on Temporary Sub-Assignments
>
> Problem Statement:
>
> When the policy was drafted, the concept of assignments/sub-assignments
> did not consider the use of IP addresses in hotspots, or the use of IP
> addresses by guests or employees in Bring Your Own Device (BYOD) and many
> other similar cases.
>
> Additionally, the IETF has recently approved the use of a unique IPv6 /64
> prefix per interface/host (RFC8273) instead of a unique address. This, for
> example, allows users to connect to a hotspot, receive a /64 such that they
> are "isolated" from other users (for reasons of security, regulatory
> requirements, etc.) and they can also use multiple virtual machines on
> their devices with a unique address for each one (within the same /64).
>
> Section 2.5 (Definitions/Allocate and Assign), explicitly prohibits such
> assignments, stating that "Assignments... are not to be sub-assigned to
> other parties".
>
> This proposal clarifies this situation in this regard and better define
> the concept, particularly considering new uses of IPv6 (RFC8273), by means
> of additional language added to the definition of an Assignment.
>
> Note that the proposal text also incorporates changes made under an
> Editorial Change currently awaiting Board of Trustees review, available
> here: https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_11.html
>
> Policy Statement:
>
> Actual Text, Section 2.5:
>
> • Assign - To assign means to delegate address space to an ISP or
> end-user, for specific use within the Internet infrastructure they operate.
> Assignments must only be made for specific purposes documented by specific
> organizations and are not to be sub-assigned to other parties.
>
> New Text:
>
> • Assignment - Address space delegated to an organization directly by ARIN
> for the exclusive use of the recipient organization. A temporary assignment
> of address space provided to third parties shall not be considered an
> assignment or a violation of the exclusive use criterion.
>
> Comments
>
> Timetable for implementation:
>
> Immediate
>
> Anything else:
>
> Situation in other regions:
>
> This situation, has already been corrected in RIPE, and the policy was
> updated in a similar way, even if right now there is a small discrepancy
> between the policy text that reached consensus and the RIPE NCC Impact
> Analysis. A new policy proposal has been submitted to amend that, and the
> text is the same as presented by this proposal at ARIN. Same text has also
> been submitted to AfriNIC, LACNIC and APNIC.
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