[arin-ppml] ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

[Larry Ash]

On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 14:47:09 -0700
  Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Aug 13, 2018, at 14:42 , Job Snijders <job at ntt.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I agree with the proposal.
>> 
>> I think this proposal is needed and addresses practical concerns: the alternative to transfers is “renumbering”, and renumbering 
>>ASNs is a very costly and operationally risky proposition. There is no upside to restricting or forbidding this type of resource 
>>transfer.
>> 
>> A question that remains: if you don’t want to transfer your ASN in or out of ARIN, then don’t, but why forbid others from doing 
>>it? All resources should be transferable.
> 
> We can agree to disagree.

I agree with Owen, I just can't see a burning need. Renumbering seems to be a bugaboo that is just not that difficult.
I would think the transfer of the ASN would as costly, difficult and risky as migrating the resources onto a new ASN.

> 
> I remain of the opinion that the transfer of IPv4 resources was, for lack of a better term, a necessary evil to meet the 
>expediencies of a (hopefully unusual) situation (namely the end of the IPv4 free pool prior to the ubiquitous deployment of 
>IPv6).
> 
> Similarly to the mission creep of NAT (which was deployed for largely the same reason and which is now mistakenly widely 
>perceived to be a security tool), transfers are now seeing this sort of mission creep.
> 
> Having been through several ASN renumbering processes, I found them neither particularly costly (compared to the other tasks 
>related to the event triggering the need for the ASN renumber), nor operationally risky.
> 
>For the most part, networks themselves don’t move from one continent to another, so the need for migratory ASNs seems rather 
>dubious in the vast majority of cases.
> 
> Owen
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