[arin-ppml] Revised: ARIN-2017-4: Remove Reciprocity Requirement for Inter-RIR Transfers

[Kevin Blumberg]

In re-reading the problem statement the following information was given.

"ARIN staff, in reply to an inquiry from AFRINIC, have formally indicated that ARINs 8.4 policy language will not allow ARIN to participate in such one-way transfers."

The use of one-way transfers completely mitigates any loss on the one side, and opens concern from the other. 

A question for Staff. Would a policy in another region that allows transfers, if a ratio at or above 1:1 basis work? Would that be considered reciprocal?

At this time, I'm neither in support or opposed to the problem statement, but I don't support the policy as written.

I also have concerns with having policy in our region to support a policy in another region, that has not been approved in another region, and in fact has not reached consensus twice. 

I don't have a good handle of the issues that the other regions have and having a policy implemented with out that understanding will be problematic. 

Thanks,

Kevin Blumberg






-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Burns [mailto:mike at iptrading.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 9:39 AM
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Subject: RE: [arin-ppml] Revised: ARIN-2017-4: Remove Reciprocity Requirement for Inter-RIR Transfers

Hi Kevin,

LACNIC will be presented with a one-way policy proposal in Montevideo in a few weeks. It has failed to reach consensus twice but was returned to the list, so it will be voted on again.

https://politicas.lacnic.net/politicas/detail/id/LAC-2017-2

Regards,
Mike




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Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Revised: ARIN-2017-4: Remove Reciprocity Requirement for Inter-RIR Transfers

Are there active polices in the other regions that rely on this policy? I understand there have been discussions, however I don't know what the status is/was. 

Thanks,

Kevin Blumberg



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Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 2:36 PM
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Subject: [arin-ppml] Revised: ARIN-2017-4: Remove Reciprocity Requirement for Inter-RIR Transfers

The following has been revised:

* Draft Policy ARIN-2017-4: Remove Reciprocity Requirement for Inter-RIR Transfers

Revised text is below and can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_4.html

You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this draft policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are:

* Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
* Technically Sound
* Supported by the Community

The PDP can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html

Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html

Regards,

Sean Hopkins
Policy Analyst
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)



Draft Policy ARIN-2017-4: Remove Reciprocity Requirement for Inter-RIR Transfers

Version Date: 6 September 2017

Problem Statement:

AFRINIC and LACNIC are currently considering one-way inter-RIR transfer proposals. Those RIR communities feel a one-way policy a policy that allows network operators in their regions to obtain space from another region and transfer it into AFRINIC and LACNIC may best meet the needs of the operators in that region.

ARIN staff, in reply to an inquiry from AFRINIC, have formally indicated that ARINs 8.4 policy language will not allow ARIN to participate in such one-way transfers. The staff formally indicate to AFRINIC that the word reciprocal in 8.4 prohibits ARIN from allowing ARIN-registered space to transfer directly to AFRINIC (in this context).

ARIN as a community should recognize that other RIR operator communities have different needs than we do. We should recognize that:

- network operators in AFRINIC in LACNIC have need to obtain space in the market;

- have reasons they think are important to not allow two-way transfers; and

- we should understand that the history of the RIR system has led to LACNIC and AFRINIC having multiple orders of magnitude less IPv4 address space than ARIN does.

Policy statement:

Add the following sentence after the first sentence of NRPM 8.4:

Inter-RIR transfers may take place to an RIR with a non-reciprocal inter-RIR transfer policy only when the recipient RIR has an IPv4 total inventory less than the average (mean) of the IPv4 total inventory among all of the RIRs.

Timetable for implementation: Upon the ratification of any inter-RIR transfer policy at another RIR that is one-way as described in the problem statement.
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