[arin-ppml] Revised: Draft Policy ARIN-2017-8: Amend the Definition of Community Network

David Huberman daveid at panix.com
Tue Oct 3 19:32:27 EDT 2017


I like this language a lot, and the strong reasoning behind it. 


> On Oct 3, 2017, at 3:52 PM, Richard J Letts <rjletts at uw.edu> wrote:
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> My point of view
> a)       I am not sure why educational institutions are not able to pay the fees for other categories of usage, or why they need an exception.
> ARIN staff would need to decide if the application satisfies this: “a volunteer group, not-for-profit, non-profit, or charitable organization”
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> I’ve been involved with enough community groups to know that two of these have weak governance structures that fail when there are conflicts (a volunteer group and being a non-core aspect of a charitable organization), inevitably leading to the collapse of the organization. I’m not going to prejudge that debate here, but consider striking them. If the community organization doesn’t have 501(c)3 status in the US they are leaving out the opportunity to save money and get grants.
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> Without a legal entity ‘owning’ the space how would ARIN know they were dealing with, who is legally allowed to dispose of the space, etc.
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> b)      Who cares if they provide ‘other Information Technology services’ to their community; we’re talking about internet access here
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> c)       ‘Persons or entities’ seems redundant (It is like saying ‘people or not people’); who/what are the not a person and not an entity that are excluded?
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> d)      I am not sure what is considered critical? Digging ditches? Pulling fiber? Responding to ARIN requests? Filing forms with the IRS?
> As an example I’m on the board of a non-profit. We decide on the aims, manage the membership, etc. but we pay [independent 1099] contractors for services (editing and printing the newsletter, performing at concerts, concert sound, etc.). Some of these are non-critical (the newsletter), some are critical (the performers), volunteers some critical things (IRS tax returns, state registrations) and some non-critical things (run the website)
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> So I think I end up with something with fewer words.
> “A community network is a network organized and operated by a volunteer group, not-for-profit, non-profit, or charitable organization
>  for the purpose of providing free or low-cost connectivity within their community. Volunteers play a large role in directing the activity of the organization, but some functions may be handled by paid staff.”
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> /RjL
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> “2.11 Community Network
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> A community network is a network organized and operated by a volunteer 
> group, not-for-profit, non-profit, charitable organization, or 
> educational institution for the purpose of providing free or low-cost 
> connectivity, or other Information Technology services to persons or 
> entities within their community. Critical functions may be handled by 
> paid staff, but volunteers play a large role in offering services 
> available through community networks.”
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