[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2017-12: Require New POC Validation Upon Reassignment

Ted Mittelstaedt tedm at ipinc.net
Thu Nov 30 06:26:21 EST 2017


I cannot comment for everyone in the community other than to say
that any network administrator who sees no value in accurate POCs
is certifiably insane.

I submit the following for your enjoyment:

There once was an admin named Hein
Who thought lying on his POC was just fine
then along came a scammer
gunned his hosts with a scanner
and Hein could do nothing but whine!

thank you thank you I'll be here till Friday....


On 11/30/2017 2:48 AM, John Curran wrote:
> On 30 Nov 2017, at 1:08 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm at ipinc.net
> <mailto:tedm at ipinc.net>> wrote:
>> And I will point out that the entire point of validating POCs is to
>> discover things like /16's that haven't been used for 15 years.
>> It would seem to me that ARIN staff vacillates between loving and
>> hating section 3.6 of the NRPM.
>> Some years they see any attempt at housecleaning stale assignments
>> that are just on autopilot
>> (like this mythical /16 - I love how when people cite these examples
>> they never
>> state the actual numbers - hello!) as an obstacle to increased IPv6
>> adoption so they hate it and undercut it. Other years they desperately
>> need to get some IPv4 for someone very big and powerful with maybe a
>> whole lot of guns and rocket launchers and such and they love this
>> section since it allows them to scrape together some IPv4 for a need.
> <chuckle>
> Ted -
> You’d be amazed, but ARIN staff actually doesn’t “feel” much about the
> various policy text contained in the NRPM… It is entirely the community’s
> collective work product, and the only time I hear staff express ‘grumbling'
> over policy text is when it is overly ambiguous regarding the intended
> policy.
> (To the extent that there are concerns on any aspects of the NRPM, we
> report such to the community in periodic Policy Experience and
> Implementation reports.)
> As usual, the key question is (and remains): what the does the ARIN
> community feel is the desired policy for POC validation, both when
> initially set and with respect to any periodic update?
> Thanks!
> /John
> John Curran
> President and CEO

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