[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2017-12: Require New POC Validation Upon Reassignment

Scott Leibrand scottleibrand at gmail.com
Mon Nov 27 15:56:00 EST 2017


This would be a new policy proposal. If you'd like to discuss it before
deciding whether to formally propose something, I would recommend a new
thread, as it's off-topic for this thread.

-Scott

On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Andrew Bagrin <abagrin at omninet.io> wrote:

> I’d also like to see a $100 monthly fee per IPv4 /24 currently assigned.
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> I held onto a /16 at a previous company, just because it was cool but had
> no use for it.  I checked recently and it is still assigned to the same
> company and not being used 15 years later.
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> By adding a $25k monthly fee, they would quickly return the block.
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> Currently we have to pay brokers or sellers to acquire more IPv4 space. I
> would rather pay ARIN which could go to better funding the organization.
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> *From:* ARIN-PPML [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] *On Behalf Of *Austin
> Murkland
> *Sent:* Monday, November 27, 2017 3:26 PM
> *To:* Andre Dalle <adalle at ncf.ca>
> *Cc:* ARIN-PPML List <arin-ppml at arin.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2017-12: Require New POC
> Validation Upon Reassignment
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> Also support this
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> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 6:20 PM, Andre Dalle <adalle at ncf.ca> wrote:
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> All my IPv4 space is reassigned, and I discovered last year that not all
> of it - from the same carrier - is properly associated with us.
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> Upstream created a POC for us (even though we were an existing customer
> with multiple reassignments), and it's been sluggish getting them to
> sort it out.  We have rDNS, so most abuse reporting still finds us, but
> some abuse mechanisms out there rely on POC info.
>
> So I think this is necessary.  +100 from here as well.
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> ----
> André Dalle
> Systems Administrator
> National Capital FreeNet [http://www.ncf.ca]
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Provo" <ppml at rsuc.gweep.net>
> To: "ARIN-PPML List" <arin-ppml at arin.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, 22 November, 2017 11:01:59
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2017-12: Require New POC
> Validation Upon Reassignment
>
> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 06:13:46PM -0500, David Huberman wrote:
> > Thank you Scott.  As the co-author, I very much recognize this
> > proposal text is a ???first draft???.  Working with my co-author
> > Jason Schiller, and having solicited feedback from the AC, this
> > proposal was submitted to solve the general problem.  My hope was
> > the mechanics would be looked at critically by the community during
> > the PDP, and we would work together to improve them.
>
> With my personal hat on I'm very happy to see this getting
> to discussion. +100 for intent and I look forward to useful
> language suggestions here.
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> --
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> Joe Provo / Gweep / Earthling
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