[arin-ppml] 2017-3

Jason Schiller jschiller at google.com
Thu Nov 16 11:17:12 EST 2017


FYI,

I submitted a proposal for verifying with re-assignment victims to see if
they are an unwitting POC.

Seems there was already a proposal on the docket prop-247
https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/ARIN_prop_247_orig.html.

I did quickly check the proposals on the docket, and mis-read the status
"Clarity and Understanding".
Incorrectly thinking this was just an ARIN AC "editorial update" so I
didn't bother to check the text.

I am withdrawing my proposal, and have contacted the originator of prop-247
to include
a narrow corner case my proposal covered but prop-247 didn't.

___Jason







On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Austin Murkland <austin.murkland at qscend.com
> wrote:

> i support this policy as written, and also agree with Jason that it
> doesn't address the issues he describes.  I would also be in favor of a
> parallel policy proposal built upon this one which seeks to remedy this.
>
> -Austin
>
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Potter, Amy <apotter at hilcoglobal.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Updated text of 2017-3 is provided below. The problem statement has been
>> simplified, and language has been cleaned up a bit.  Feedback would be
>> appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> UPDATE TO NPRM 3.6: Annual Whois POC Validation
>>
>>
>>
>> *Problem Statement:*
>>
>>
>>
>> Many of the Point of Contacts listed in ARIN’s public Whois database
>> contain out-of-date and inaccurate contact information.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Policy Statement:*
>>
>>
>>
>> *Current Text*:
>>
>>
>>
>> 3.6 Annual Whois POC Validation
>>
>>
>>
>> 3.6.1 Method of Annual Verification
>>
>>
>>
>> During ARIN's annual Whois POC validation, an email will be sent to every
>> POC in the Whois database. Each POC will have a maximum of 60 days to
>> respond with an affirmative that their Whois contact information is correct
>> and complete. Unresponsive POC email addresses shall be marked as such in
>> the database. If ARIN staff deems a POC to be completely and permanently
>> abandoned or otherwise illegitimate, the POC record shall be marked
>> invalid. ARIN will maintain, and make readily available to the community, a
>> current list of number resources with no valid POC; this data will be
>> subject to the current bulk Whois policy.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Proposed Revised Text*:
>>
>>
>>
>> 3.6 Annual Validation of ARIN's Public Whois Point of Contact Data
>>
>>
>>
>> 3.6.1 Annual POC Verification
>>
>> ARIN will perform an annual verification of specific Points of Contact
>> registered in the public Whois using the criteria and procedures outlined
>> in sections 3.6.2, 3.6.3, and 3.6.4.
>>
>>
>>
>> 3.6.2 Specified Public Whois Points of Contact for Verification
>>
>> Each of the following Points of Contact are to be verified annually, and
>> will be referred to as Point of Contact or POC throughout this policy, and
>> should be understood to be both organization and resource POCs:
>>
>>    - Admin
>>    - Tech
>>    - NOC
>>    - Abuse
>>
>>
>>
>> 3.6.3 Organizations Covered by this Policy
>>
>> This policy applies to every Organization that has a direct assignment,
>> direct allocation, or AS number from ARIN (or one of its predecessor
>> registries) or a reallocation from an upstream ISP. This includes but is
>> not limited to upstream ISPs and their downstream ISP customers (as defined
>> by NRPM 2.5 and 2.6), but not reassignments made to their downstream end
>> user customers.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 3.6.4 Procedure for Verification
>>
>> An annual email notification will be sent to each of the Points of
>> Contact outlined in section 3.6.2 on an annual basis. Each Point of Contact
>> will have up to sixty (60) days from the date of the notification in which
>> to respond with an affirmative that their Whois contact information is
>> correct and complete or to submit new data to correct and complete it.  If
>> after careful analysis, ARIN staff deems a POC to be completely and
>> permanently abandoned or otherwise illegitimate, the POC record shall be
>> marked invalid in Whois.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  3.6.5 Non-Responsive Point of Contact Records
>>
>> Once a non-responsive POC has been marked invalid in the public Whois,
>> any organization lacking a validated Admin or Tech POC will be unable to
>> access the full suite of functionality within ARIN Online until the invalid
>> POC(s) have either validated that their information is accurate or
>> modified their POC to contain up-to-date information.
>>
>>
>>
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Jason Schiller|NetOps|jschiller at google.com|571-266-0006
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