[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2017-9: Clarification of Initial Block Size for IPv4 ISP Transfers

[Steven Ryerse]

Yes I would like that change.

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On Nov 21, 2017, at 10:28 PM, Andrew Dul <andrew.dul at quark.net<mailto:andrew.dul at quark.net>> wrote:

It sounds like our recollections of what we intended for ISP initial allocations have diverged. I will admit when I drafted the problem statement I did not go back through email to see if there was anything about this issue.

Assuming we harmonize the problem statement, would you prefer the /24 as initial no questions asked size or a /21?

What do others prefer?

.Andrew

On Nov 21, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Scott Leibrand <scottleibrand at gmail.com<mailto:scottleibrand at gmail.com>> wrote:

I believe this problem statement is incorrect, and therefore oppose the policy proposal as-is.

8.5.4 was intended (by me, as one of the authors, and in PPML discussions I just pulled up) to allow ISPs to transfer a /24 without justification.  It was *not* intended to "match the previous policy" in 4.2.2.

8.5.5 reads "8.5.5. Block size
Organizations may qualify for the transfer of a larger initial block, or an additional block, by providing documentation to ARIN which details the use of at least 50% of the requested IPv4 block size within 24 months. An officer of the organization shall attest to the documentation provided to ARIN."

The intention was that any ISP needing a /21 would need to "provide documentation to ARIN which details the use of at least 50% of the requested IPv4 block size within 24 months", with officer attestation to same.

If that policy is deemed insufficient, and we believe it's better to allow transfers of up to /21 without providing documentation to ARIN and officer attestation of such, then this proposal would need to be re-written with a new problem statement justifying that.

-Scott

On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 2:40 PM, ARIN <info at arin.net<mailto:info at arin.net>> wrote:
On 16 November 2017, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) advanced "ARIN-prop-244: Clarification of Initial Block Size for IPv4 ISP Transfers" to Draft Policy status.

Draft Policy ARIN-2017-9 is below and can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_9.html

You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this draft policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are:

* Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
* Technically Sound
* Supported by the Community

The PDP can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html

Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html

Regards,

Sean Hopkins
Policy Analyst
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)



Draft Policy ARIN-2017-9: Clarification of Initial Block Size for IPv4 ISP Transfers

Problem Statement:

It was noted at the ARIN 40 Policy Experience Report, that there is an inconsistency in the initial block size for ISPs. Section 4.2.2 notes that the initial ISP block size should be /21 whereas the initial block size in 8.5.4 is noted as "minimum transfer size" which is effectively a /24. The intent of the new 8.5.4 was to match the previous policy. This policy is intended to clarify this issue. It was noted that ARIN staff current operational practice is to allow ISPs an initial /21 for Section 8 transfers.

Policy statement:

Add the following to 8.5.4

ISP organizations without direct assignments or allocations from ARIN qualify for an initial allocation of up to a /21.

Comments:

a. Timetable for implementation: Immediate
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