[arin-ppml] IPv4 SWIP requirements (?)

Michael Peddemors michael at linuxmagic.com
Sat May 27 16:07:49 EDT 2017

Last time I brought up this topic, I was informed that until the Board 
gets the mandate to work on enforcement, very little will be done on 
this.  However, it wasn't clear on how that can be brought about.

Of course, we are supposed to 'report it to hostmaster', but after many 
such reports, and seeing no effect, it makes it hard to bother with 
reporting it..

We see daily bad SWIP entries, entries pointing to bad or non 
functioning 'rwhois' servers, and without the 'stick', that is unlikely 
to change.

We in our own way 'encourage' operators of IP Space to fix their 
entries, but until some form of policing is in place, I do not expect it 
to change much.

Maybe an independent movement to 'blackhole' IP space with bad SWIP 
practices?? (not entirely kidding)

On 17-05-26 03:45 PM, Scott Leibrand wrote:
> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 3:32 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette
> <rfg at tristatelogic.com <mailto:rfg at tristatelogic.com>> wrote:
>     In message <8A3A301D-39B5-4F81-8E2C-90E23B81919E at panix.com
>     <mailto:8A3A301D-39B5-4F81-8E2C-90E23B81919E at panix.com>>,
>     David Huberman <daveid at panix.com <mailto:daveid at panix.com>> wrote:
>     >In short, there is an argument that the SWIP rules are no-op now. So to answer
>     >your question directly; what do you do? Nothing. Those days are long gone
>     >and ARIN has other focuses now.
>     So, let me see if I understand this...
>     ARIN doesn't, can't, and most probably won't either enforce the existing
>     (IPv4) SWIP rules, nor, for that matter, any new SWIP rules that may be
>     drafted and/or promulgated with respect to IPv6.  Is that about the size
>     of it?
> Pretty much, unless someone comes up with a new method of enforcing SWIP
> rules.  Some of the discussions with law enforcement could eventually
> result in such carrots or sticks, but no one has proposed any specifics yet.
>     If so, then color me perplexed.  I'm not at all sure that I grasp the
>     reason(s) why people on this list are spending/investing time and energy
>     discussing and debating some new draft rule for IPv6 that also and
>     likewise
>     won't ever actually be enforced.
>     Am I missing something?
> No, this proposal isn't drafting a new rule, but rather relaxing an
> existing one that mostly isn't being observed or enforced, so that
> people who follow the rules and those who don't are on a level playing
> field.
> -Scott
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