[arin-ppml] ARIN Draft Policy 2017-1: Clarify Slow Start for Transfers proposed updates

Mike Burns mike at iptrading.com
Wed May 3 13:49:42 EDT 2017

Hi Alison,


We have done 400+ transfers and have never heard of this problem from any

Buyers are far more concerned with ensuring supply and what it will cost.

I don't see the value in more Section 8 clutter.

Anybody in the world with any sort of concern about demonstrating need by
whatever arcane formula can avail themselves of the needs-free policy in

Open an account there, buy what you need, use them anywhere. Plus no
transfer fees!


That's the workaround.  Even better would be to address this problem through
excision of the needs test from ARIN transfer policy, rendering the NRPM
simpler, easier to use, and less cluttered by pointless artifacts from the
free-pool era.


So I don't support the proposal in its revised form.


Mike Burns







From: ARIN-PPML [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of WOOD Alison
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 1:35 PM
To: arin-ppml at arin.net
Subject: [arin-ppml] ARIN Draft Policy 2017-1: Clarify Slow Start for
Transfers proposed updates


The ARIN Draft Policy 2017-1 shepherds working with the original author have
updated the problem statement and added clarification to section 8.5.5.  The
AC would like feedback on the proposed updated problem statement and
modification to 8.5.5. We encourage community members to comment on the
proposed updates.  


Problem Statement (revised):

Some number of organizations may be uncomfortable making speculative forward
projections (that are now required under NRPM section 8 for purposes of
transfer request approval) and prefer that there be available a more certain
approach based solely on extrapolation of their existing IPv4 number usage


And adding the following text to the end of 8.5.5


Organizations may qualify for an additional block by using a projection of
their address use from 6-24 months of allocations or assignments just prior
to the transfer request.


Thank you!




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