[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2017-2: Removal of Community Networks

Jason Schiller jschiller at google.com
Tue Mar 21 15:07:01 EDT 2017


I would offer a friendly amendment to Scott's request to open the
question up more generally...  (we should not confuse if a policy
is being used, with if it is needed).

Can "Community Networks" please chime into this thread
and explain one (or all) of the following:

1. Why are you (or other communities networks in general)
having or had trouble getting resources?

2. Is the current policy is sufficient for you
(and other community networks like you)
to get space without sections 2.11 and 6.5.9?

3. Do you (and others like you) believe they should
qualify under "Community Networks" but do not because
the definition is overly narrow?
[explain how we might extend the definition to cover you]

4. Did you get space under a different policy,
but still believe you would have been better served
if you were able to fit under the "Communities Networks"
definition?

If we don't hear from "community networks" by the time we discuss
this as a recommended draft then I would support the removal.

If we do hear from "community networks" then I would use their
advice to determine if special consideration for community networks
is useful or not, and if the current policy meets their needs, requires
modification, or is completely unneeded.

Please note if you think you should be considered a community network,
and why. (e.g. I am Your Neighborhood Net.  We should be considered a
community network because we offer "free" WiFi to our community.  We
hold monthly meetings that cost $10 / person, but half of that covers the
price of the pizza, the rest is a donation for our ISP fees and replacement
equipment.  Occasionally, a community member will buy and donate an
access point so they can get better coverage, or speed.  Neither
Your Neighborhood Net, nor people associated with it make any money)

Please ask any community networks you know to chime in on this thread!

___Jason




On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 2:16 PM, Scott Leibrand <scottleibrand at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I support this policy until/unless we hear from an actual community
> network that is actually applying for space under the Community Networks
> section of the NRPM (and would not qualify as easily otherwise).
>
> Scott
>
> > On Mar 21, 2017, at 10:35 AM, ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:
> >
> > On 16 March 2017, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) accepted
> "ARIN-prop-238: Removal of Community Networks" as a Draft Policy.
> >
> > Draft Policy text is below and can be found at:
> > https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_2.html
> >
> > You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will
> evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this draft
> policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated
> in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are:
> >
> > * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
> > * Technically Sound
> > * Supported by the Community
> >
> > The PDP can be found at:
> > https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
> >
> > Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
> > https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Sean Hopkins
> > Policy Analyst
> > American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
> >
> >
> >
> > Draft Policy ARIN-2017-2: Removal of Community Networks
> >
> > Date: 21 March 2017
> >
> > Problem Statement:
> >
> > The Community Networks section of the NRPM has not been utilized since
> it was implemented in January 2010. A recent policy ARIN-2016-7, to
> increase the number of use cases, was abandoned by the Advisory Council due
> to lack of feedback. The policy should be removed to simplify the NRPM.
> >
> > Policy statement:
> >
> > Remove the following 2 sections.
> >
> > 2.11 Community Network
> >
> > 6.5.9 Community Network Assingments
> >
> > Comments:
> >
> > Timetable for implementation: Immediate
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