[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2017-5: Equalization of Assignment Registration requirements between IPv4 and IPv6

Chris James chris at datacate.com
Fri Jun 2 04:14:19 EDT 2017

Difficult to disagree w/Martin's logic. If we use SWIP to determine
eligibility for additional resources in the current environment; SWIP is
pointless thus the policy is a waste of time to all involved and this whole
back and forth is tiresome.

If we wish to use SWIP as a means to manage abuse issues, then more
stringent guidelines are needed. I am not saying we need to penalize, but
at least standards. I agree with the /56 idea.

John Curran (ARIN) Please advise ARIN's point of view. If you had to choose
1 and only 1; is SWIP for Abuse or Allocation?
If, then, else, start at the top.

Chris James

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey there. Thanks. Inline.
> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 7:26 AM, <hostmaster at uneedus.com> wrote:
>> 1) According to the policy manual, it appears that SWIP is the tool for
>> an ISP to document the address assignments made to its customers, so that
>> when more address space is requested, ARIN can determine qualifications.
> Which is easily duplicated from the initial provisioning and/or CDR system.
>> 2) Although not directly expressed in the policy manual, it is also a
>> tool for operators to contact the administrators of blocks of address space
>> when there is an abuse event.
> This could be a benefit if the data was reliable or widely actionable.
>> Very few ISP's have come back for anything more than their original /32
>> allocation of v6, so that purpose might not be as important in the future.
> I agree. Its easy to conclude that SWIP may possibly have outlived it's
> usefulness and value to ARIN or it's members. Maybe the better policy
> modification is to get rid of SWIP entirely and relieve operators of an
> unnecessary burden?
> Best,
> -M<
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