[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2017-2: Removal of Community Networks

Jason Schiller jschiller at google.com
Tue Jun 13 22:35:23 EDT 2017


Marita,

I take to message to mean having ARIN policy for community networks
is helpful, and the policy is not used by community networks, because
the 100% volunteer requirement disqualifies many who would benefit
which is why the policy has gone unused.

The next step is coming up with a definition that will support community
networks, but not allow other organizations to abuse the definition as a
loophole.

The conversation needs to shift to how do we define "community networks"
in a useful way.

Propose a definition for community networks.

Can you borrow from other definitions of community networks
that you come across in your sphere, such as  say the tax codes,
or access to some other privilege that community networks may
be granted?

I suspect the ARIN community would be happy dropping the volunteer
requirement if there was some other way to separate out things
that are community networks.

__Jason



On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 9:57 PM, Marita Moll <mmoll at ca.inter.net> wrote:

> Hello all. As part of NARALO, I attended the ARIN mtg in New Orleans and
> became aware of the policy re: community networks. I don't have all the
> details others can contribute. But I have been involved on the policy side
> with community networks in Canada for 20 years, so can provide a small
> slice of context from here.
>
> I totally agree that community networks see a lot of value in being
> recognized in ARIN policy. The few are doing well, others struggle to
> exist.  But they have been and in some areas are still an important part of
> the Internet access landscape. It is difficult, as it is, to even locate
> these scattered entities. Deleting language the recognizes their existence
> would be a shame.
>
> The 100% volunteer driven requirement is not realistic. I don't know what
> it should be. Even 70% volunteer driven might not bring in much more
> activity in the short term but it would be a recognition that the
> non-profit/cooperative model is a viable option for communities trying to
> manage their own access issues.
>
> Marita Moll
>
> Telecommunities Canada (loose coalition of community networks in Canada)
>
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