[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2017-5: Equalization of Assignment Registration requirements between IPv4 and IPv6

Roberts, Orin oroberts at bell.ca
Thu Jul 27 12:46:05 EDT 2017


On the contrary, it questions the validity and purpose of a swip.
Why is a SWIP necessary for IPv6? When is it necessary? And is necessity dependent on network/allocation size? All questions others have asked.

For all direct allocations , there are several POC's and an Organisation Name & Address, I think validation should be compulosary by ARIN at this level.
The ORG I work for has a min of  4, ADMIN, NOC, ABUSE, TECH per supernet (IPv4 /16 or IPv6 /32). 
Beyond this I share your view point ~ "The only thing I give a crap about whois for is that the contact is someone with authority over the IP in question"

Now if "Authority" is defined as IANA>>ARIN>>Direct Allocation>>Realloaction# and the buck stops here. There won't be a need for Reassignment SWIPS on IPv6!

For IPv4 , we can ignore purpose and move straight to the issue of End User service address v.s. End User Legal address/tech contact address vs Service Provider address.
Right now the model is mixed. Most SWIPs are End User Service address but a few are the Service Provider Address or Legal Owner address (hence the bus analogy). 
I simple wanted clarity on what is general practice vs what is OBLIGATORY as per ARIN existing policy.

Orin 



-----Original Message-----
From: ARIN-PPML [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
Sent: July-26-17 11:51 AM
To: arin-ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2017-5: Equalization of Assignment Registration requirements between IPv4 and IPv6

On 7/26/17 08:34, hostmaster at uneedus.com wrote:
> Im sure glad that /32's of static IPv4 are not subject to SWIP, and 
> that SWIP does not require GPS info.
> 
> If it did, we would be in trouble, as our GPS tracking only updates 
> every 300 seconds or 5 minutes, and we would need a T1 of bandwidth 
> just to keep the SWIP updated, and for what purpose?  In all cases the 
> only place that will address abuse is our NOC.


If anyone really cares about the GPS location of a given IP at any time, just dynamically update some DNS LOC records.

This entire thread has gone beyond insane. I can't believe this list is actually discussing where a bus is located in whois. The only thing I give a crap about whois for is that the contact is someone with authority over the IP in question.

~Seth
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