[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2017-5: Equalization of Assignment Registration requirements between IPv4 and IPv6
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Thu Jul 20 17:28:41 EDT 2017
My transit bus example is another example of SWIP difficulty. Very hard
to provide a street address to SWIP a bus when it is mobile 16 hours a
Current policy says SWIP every /64 or more, which is every network in v6.
I did a check here, and in v4, only 1% of customers have more than 8 ip's,
and these customers are colocation customers who have a bunch of SSL
sites. These are grandfathered. New customers are told to use 1 IPv4
address and SNI or better yet, IPv6, as we do not have the money to buy
more V4. We would rather use our v4 inventory for access customers.
Yes, it is just a few pieces of information for SWIP. However, we do not
have clerical staff to do it, because except for the SSL colocates, there
never has been v4 SWIP's required here. Why should the policy state that
just because we give each customer an assignment of v6, we must SWIP that
same small customer that did not require SWIP in v4? (Welcome to IPv6, now
fill out this form.....) Also noted is that the SWIP registration details
without written permission might get us in trouble with the FCC over CPNI.
As a WISP that has licensed microwave links, we do pay attention to Uncle
Paradise On Line Inc.
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017, Chris James wrote:
> @Paul - The API key is to email it.
> @Owen - Very difficult when you have dynamic ranges, and vps/container
> platforms spanning tens of thousands of instances across these dynamic
> On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Paul McNary <pmcnary at cameron.net> wrote:
>> The reassignment policy page says IPv6 has to be done vi API.
>> Is that something else that is incorrect on the web site?
>> On 7/20/2017 3:16 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>>> How can it be overly difficult to fill out an email template with your
>>> Name, Address, Phone Number?
>>> On Jul 19, 2017, at 23:48 , Pallieter Koopmans <Pallieter at pallieter.org>
>>>> ARIN could quantify and require rules for when to SWIP, but in the
>>>> end, there are going to be exceptions needed if the rules are to be
>>>> strictly followed. Many will not separately SWIP a separately routed
>>>> sub-block if it is too difficult or pointless to gather and share that
>>>> data back upstream to ARIN.
>>>> Thus a more fuzzy rule to require a best-effort and to add a
>>>> rule-based reason (preferably both a carrot and a stick) for block
>>>> owners to do their best to provide (only) useful data. In order to do
>>>> that, one needs to look back at why that data is needed. For a block
>>>> owner to assign the SWIP on a sub-block, he basically delegates tech
>>>> and abuse contact requests down to those that are probably more likely
>>>> to be able to actually act on the tech/abuse requests (and thus reduce
>>>> request-handling workload higher up and overall). But for that to
>>>> work, those tech/abuse contact requests need to be actually handled,
>>>> otherwise, it is better to leave them with the block owner.
>>>> In the end, the contact details should be as close to the "person"
>>>> that is actually capable to both handle (think: volume/languages/etc)
>>>> and act (think: authority) on the tech/abuse requests.
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>>>> Pallieter Koopmans
>>>> Managing Director
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>>>> Skype: PallieterKoopmans
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