[arin-ppml] ARIN Response to AFRINIC on Policy compatibility

Cj Aronson cja at daydream.com
Thu Jan 19 18:24:59 EST 2017


David

I agree that we should remove the word reciprocal or make a special
exception for AFRNIC and LACNIC.  We once had a separate minimum allocation
for the AFRINIC area before AFRINIC was formed.  I think this falls into
that same sort of policy category.

-----Cathy


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On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 1:36 PM, David R Huberman <daveid at panix.com> wrote:

>
> Last week, ARIN staff sent to this list a copy of their response to
> AFRINIC on inter-RIR transfer policy compatability.
>
> The AFRINIC community is considering a one-way transfer policy as a
> bootstrap for the few years until they reach IPv4 runout, at which point it
> would aim to become two-way.
>
> I feel like as a member of the internet community, that ARIN (we - us -
> the PPML participants) should be accepting that an RIR in a different
> region has different needs than we do. I think we should allow African
> internet operators to obtain blocks from sellers in the ARIN region, and
> transfer them to AFRINIC to meet their needs.
>
> The AFRINIC inbound transfer policy is very ARIN-like. It's needs-basis,
> and the language looks very similar to 8.2 and 8.3 language we've had at
> ARIN for a very long time.
>
> cf.
>
> http://www.afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/polic
> y-proposals/1803-inbound-transfer-policy
>
> That's my opinion.  What's yours?
>
> Thanks,
> David
>
>
>
> On Thu, 12 Jan 2017, ARIN wrote:
>
> To PPML -
>>
>> As a result of policy discussions in the AFRINIC region, ARIN is
>> providing the following to information:
>>
>> On 30 September 2016 ARIN received a query from AFRINIC requesting an
>> assessment on the compatibility of AFRINIC proposed
>> 1803-inbound-transfer-policy with ARIN policy. On 6 October 2016 ARIN
>> responded with the following assessment:
>>
>> Based on ARIN’s Number Resource Policy Manual, Version 2016.2 – 13 July
>> 2016, and referencing the following text from paragraph 8.4. Inter-RIR
>> Transfers to Specified Recipients, we have determined that the proposed
>> AFRINIC Inbound Transfer Policy is not reciprocal.
>>
>> “Inter-regional transfers may take place only via RIRs who agree to the
>> transfer and share reciprocal, compatible, needs-based policies.”
>>
>> In this case reciprocal meaning that the policy provides both RIRs the
>> same ability to transfer: both in and out. This policy proposal as
>> written could not be implemented by ARIN. Note that ARIN’s Inter-RIR
>> transfer policy is based on other RIR's transfer policy and does not
>> consider any LIR or NIR policies.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> John Sweeting
>> Sr. Director, RSD
>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>>
>>
>>
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