[arin-ppml] ARIN Response to AFRINIC on Policy compatibility

[Owen DeLong]

The reciprocity requirement merely requires that the policies ALLOW transfers in both directions.

I do not believe that allowing transfers to an RIR which will not allow transfers out is reasonable or prudent and this belief has nothing to do with maintenance or protection of a free pool. If we will allow transfers between RIRs, then the policies by which they are allowed should be fair, balanced, and symmetrical. This does not mean that I expect the ratio of actual transfers to be balanced or symmetrical, merely that the policies under which they are conducted should be.

Owen

> On Jan 20, 2017, at 09:48 , Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com> wrote:
> 
> I forget where the original numbers came from, but with a total of 130,
> obviously many /8s are missing.
> Probably this count is not considering legacy space, most of which is North
> American.
> Including those legacy addresses, the supply for much of the transfer
> market, the ratios are much more in ARIN's favor.
> 
> Regards,
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ARIN-PPML [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Job
> Snijders
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 7:23 AM
> To: Scott Leibrand <scottleibrand at gmail.com>
> Cc: ARIN-PPML List <arin-ppml at arin.net>
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN Response to AFRINIC on Policy compatibility
> 
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 05:40:55PM -0800, Scott Leibrand wrote:
>> Why is average /8s per continent the right metric there?  Wouldn't
>> IPv4 addresses per capita be more like what we're looking for?  I 
>> haven't run the numbers, but I suspect the ARIN region is higher than 
>> all four of the other RIRs in terms of IPv4 addresses per capita.  If 
>> so, then simply removing "reciprocal," would have the same effect (of 
>> allowing transfers to regions with more need for IPv4 addresses than 
>> the ARIN region) and be much simpler.
> 
>    Region  | /8 count  | population (mm) | ipv4 per capita (+/- avg)
>    --------+-----------+-----------------+-------------------------
>    ARIN    |    36     |            579  | 1.043 (+355%)
>    AFRINIC |     5     |           1216  | 0.068 (-430%)
>    LACNIC  |     9     |            442  | 0.357 (+120%)
>    RIPE    |    35     |            738  | 0.794 (+270%)
>    APNIC   |    45     |           4476  | 0.168 ( -57%)
>    --------+-----------+-----------------+----------------
>    total   |   130     |           7451  | 0.293
> 
> numbers taken from
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_continents_by_population
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Job
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