[arin-ppml] Inter-regional ASN transfers?

Chris Woodfield chris at semihuman.com
Thu Dec 21 11:00:39 EST 2017

I personally don’t have much visibility into the resale market for short ASNs, so I’m curious - is there currently a relative supply/demand imbalance that could be alleviated by opening up the ARIN supply to other regions? Or is this meant to address future anticipated imbalances?


> On Dec 18, 2017, at 11:20 AM, Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com> wrote:
> Hello list,
> I am debating a proposal to allow inter-regional ASN transfers.
> Short ASNs have value.
> We have brokered inter-regional ASN transfers between RIPE and APNIC.
> We have been asked about an ASN transfer from ARIN to APNIC but ARIN policy forbids this.
> The last time this was considered, the proposal was abandoned due to a cost/benefit analysis, and I am wondering the same objections pertain.
> Here are the reasons for the last abandonment:
> > Regarding 2014-15:
> > 
> > "The following substantive issues were noted by the AC in considering
> > this draft policy.
> > 
> > -There is outstanding technical work which must be done prior to
> > implementation which would allow RPKI functionality for inter-RIR ASN
> > transfers
> > -There would be a significant time delay on the full implementation of
> > this policy
> > -The implementation of 2014-15 requires agreement from all 5 RIRs on a
> > method to implement inter-RIR ASN transfers
> > -Cleanup of the 2-byte ASN registry at IANA is required before this
> > policy could be fully implemented
> > -There is significant work which must be done to implement this policy
> > amongst all 5 RIRs with limited perceived overall benefit to the
> > community, especially when weighed against other competing priorities
> > 
> > While the AC believes that the limited corner case illuminated during
> > discussion of this draft policy is valid, it was noted that a valid
> > workaround, obtaining a new ASN in an appropriate RIR, is available for
> > all members of the community."
> > 
> Input from staff or community on the current status of these objections is appreciated.
> Considering how it works between RIPE and APNIC, maybe the work mentioned has been completed? 
> Regards,
> Mike Burns
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