[arin-ppml] Revised/Retitled: Draft Policy ARIN-2017-5: Improved IPv6 Registration Requirements

Wed Aug 30 19:42:26 EDT 2017

> On Aug 30, 2017, at 15:41 , hostmaster at uneedus.com wrote:
> 
> Since 2.15 recommends a /48 for every end site, any ISP getting a sub-delegation to use for customers is going to have a /47 or more, which according to the policy proposal as written will already have a registration requirement solely by its size.

You’d like to think that, but it is sadly not necessarily as true as most of us would like it to be.

There are providers out there that are (still) very stingy with IPv6 space for reasons completely passing understanding.

> Thus, I have little reason to worry about any ISP avoiding registration. I would rather wait for a specific policy proposal for subdelegation, covering both v6 and v4, and not try to add it to this proposal.

For different reasons, I’m in agreement. My reasonings are best explained by David Farmers post on the subject.

Owen

> 
> Albert Erdmann
> Network Administrator
> Paradise On Line Inc.
> 
> On Wed, 30 Aug 2017, Jason Schiller wrote:
> 
>> As I currently ready 6.5.5.1 there are two classes of addresses that are
>> required to be SWIP'd
>> A. any re-allocation or re-assignment that is a /47 or less specific (/46,
>> /45, ...)
>> B. any sub-deligation that will be individually announced
>> 
>> I recall there being a third class, any re-allocation.
>> 
>> A re-allocation is when I ISP provides addresses to their down stream
>> ISP customer who then in turn will further sub-delegate address space
>> to their customer (who may also be an ISP with customers... and so on).
>> 
>> Can I suggest a friendly amendment of:
>> 
>> 
>> 6.5.5.1. Re-allocation / reassignment information
>> Each static IPv6 re-allocation, reassignment containing a /47 or more
>> addresses, or subdelegation
>> of any size that will be individually announced, ...
>> 
>> ___Jason
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Jason Schiller <jschiller at google.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> The new policy (along with pre-existing text) will read as follows:
>>> 
>>> 6.5.5.1. Reassignment information
>>> Each static IPv6 assignment containing a /47 or more addresses, or
>>> subdelegation
>>> of any size that will be individually announced, shall be registered in
>>> the WHOIS
>>> directory via SWIP or a distributed service which meets the standards set
>>> forth in section 3.2. Reassignment registrations shall include each
>>> client's
>>> organizational information, except where specifically exempted by this
>>> policy.
>>> 
>>> 6.5.5.2. Assignments visible within 7 days
>>> All assignments shall be made visible as required in section 6.5.5.1
>>> within seven
>>> calendar days of assignment.
>>> 
>>> 6.5.5.3. Residential Subscribers
>>> 6.5.5.3.1. Residential Customer Privacy
>>> To maintain the privacy of their residential customers, an organization
>>> with downstream
>>> residential customers may substitute that organization's name for the
>>> customer's name,
>>> e.g. 'Private Customer - XYZ Network', and the customer's street address
>>> may read
>>> 'Private Residence'. Each private downstream residential reassignment must
>>> have
>>> accurate upstream Abuse and Technical POCs visible on the WHOIS record for
>>> that
>>> block.
>>> 
>>> 6.5.5.4  Registration Requested by Recipient
>>> If the downstream recipient of a static assignment of /64 or more
>>> addresses requests
>>> publishing of that assignment in ARIN's registration database, the ISP
>>> must register
>>> that assignment as described in section 6.5.5.1.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 9:02 PM, <hostmaster at uneedus.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I think we got it this time.
>>>> 
>>>> I support.
>>>> 
>>>> Albert Erdmann
>>>> Network Administrator
>>>> Paradise On Line Inc.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, 22 Aug 2017, ARIN wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The following has been revised:
>>>>> 
>>>>> * Draft Policy ARIN-2017-5: Improved IPv6 Registration Requirements
>>>>> 
>>>>> Revised text is below and can be found at:
>>>>> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_5.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> Note that the Draft Policy title has changed from "Equalization of
>>>>> Assignment Registration requirements between IPv4 and IPv6"
>>>>> 
>>>>> You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will
>>>>> evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this draft
>>>>> policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated
>>>>> in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are:
>>>>> 
>>>>> * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
>>>>> * Technically Sound
>>>>> * Supported by the Community
>>>>> 
>>>>> The PDP can be found at:
>>>>> https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
>>>>> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sean Hopkins
>>>>> Policy Analyst
>>>>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Draft Policy ARIN-2017-5: Improved IPv6 Registration Requirements
>>>>> 
>>>>> Problem Statement:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Current ARIN policy has different WHOIS directory registration
>>>>> requirements for IPv4 vs IPv6 address assignments. IPv4 registration is
>>>>> triggered for an assignment of any address block equal to or greater than a
>>>>> /29 (i.e., eight IPv4 addresses). In the case of IPv6, registration occurs
>>>>> for an assignment of any block equal to or greater than a /64, which
>>>>> constitutes one entire IPv6 subnet and is the minimum block size for an
>>>>> allocation.  Accordingly, there is a significant disparity between IPv4 and
>>>>> IPv6 WHOIS registration thresholds in the case of assignments, resulting in
>>>>> more work in the case of IPv6 than is the case for IPv4. There is no
>>>>> technical or policy rationale for the disparity, which could serve as a
>>>>> deterrent to more rapid IPv6 adoption. The purpose of this proposal is to
>>>>> eliminate the disparity and corresponding adverse consequences.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Policy statement:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1) Alter section 6.5.5.1 "Reassignment information" of the NRPM to
>>>>> strike "/64 or more addresses" and change to "/47 or more addresses, or
>>>>> subdelegation of any size that will be individually announced,"
>>>>> 
>>>>> and
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2) Alter section 6.5.5.2. "Assignments visible within 7 days" of the
>>>>> NRPM to strike the text "4.2.3.7.1" and change to "6.5.5.1"
>>>>> 
>>>>> and
>>>>> 
>>>>> 3) Alter section 6.5.5.3.1. "Residential Customer Privacy" of the NRPM
>>>>> by deleting the phrase "holding /64 and larger blocks"
>>>>> 
>>>>> and
>>>>> 
>>>>> 4) Add new section 6.5.5.4  "Registration Requested by Recipient" of the
>>>>> NRPM, to read: "If the downstream recipient of a static assignment of /64
>>>>> or more addresses requests publishing of that assignment in ARIN's
>>>>> registration database, the ISP must register that assignment as described
>>>>> in section 6.5.5.1."
>>>>> 
>>>>> Comments:
>>>>> 
>>>>> a.    Timetable for implementation:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Policy should be adopted as soon as possible.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> b.    Anything else:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Author Comments: IPv6 should not be more burdensome than the equivalent
>>>>> IPv4 network size. Currently, assignments of /29 or more of IPv4 space (8
>>>>> addresses) require registration. The greatest majority of ISP customers who
>>>>> have assignments of IPv4 space are of a single IPv4 address which do not
>>>>> trigger any ARIN registration requirement when using IPv4. This is NOT true
>>>>> when these same exact customers use IPv6, as assignments of /64 or more of
>>>>> IPv6 space require registration. Beginning with RFC 3177, it has been
>>>>> standard practice to assign a minimum assignment of /64 to every customer
>>>>> end user site, and less is never used.  This means that ALL IPv6
>>>>> assignments, including those customers that only use a single IPv4 address
>>>>> must be registered with ARIN if they are given the minimum assignment of
>>>>> /64 of IPv6 space. This additional effort may prevent ISP's from giving
>>>>> IPv6 addresses because of the additional expense of registering those
>>>>> addresses with ARIN, which is not required for IPv4. The administrative
>>>>> burden of 100% customer registration of IPv6 customers is unreasonable,
>>>>> when such is not required for those customers receiving only IPv4
>>>>> connections.
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>>> 
>>> --
>>> _______________________________________________________
>>> Jason Schiller|NetOps|jschiller at google.com|571-266-0006 <(571)%20266-0006>
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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>> Jason Schiller|NetOps|jschiller at google.com|571-266-0006
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