[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2016-1: Reserved Pool Transfer Policy

Jose R. de la Cruz III jrdelacruz at acm.org
Fri May 13 15:14:12 EDT 2016


I agree with Christopher.

José

On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 9:23 PM, Christoph Blecker <cblecker at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I can't quite imagine a scenario that would merit an 8.3 transfer of
> reserved pool IP space. I think the community is better served to encourage
> reserved pool address holders to return the space back to the reserved pool
> if the need they originally requested the address space for no longer
> exists. As such, I prefer the original policy text.
>
> I'd be open to changing my opinion if someone could explain a scenario
> where an 8.3 transfer is preferable to requesting space from the free pool.
>
> Cheers,
> Christoph
>
> On 5 May 2016 at 12:11, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>
>> Speaking strictly for myself and not as a member of the AC…
>>
>> I still fail to see the need for this. Here are the scenarios I can see:
>>
>> 1. Transfer of an operating environment to a new organization through
>> merger/acquisition/reorg:
>>
>> This would be handled in 8.2 and there is no restriction on these blocks
>> in 8.2
>> transfers.
>>
>> 2. Creation of a new operational environment which needs resources and
>> qualifies:
>>
>> Since these reserved pools still have resources available, I see no
>> reason to support
>> their transfer through 8.3 or 8.4.
>>
>> I think the proposed change would be mostly harmless, but I also feel
>> that it serves no useful purpose and would complicate policy unnecessarily.
>>
>> Further, unlike larger blocks of resources, these blocks are assigned in
>> very small chunks and for a very specific purpose. Once that purpose no
>> longer exists, their return should be straightforward and we as a community
>> should be able to expect voluntary return of these addresses as they cannot
>> be monetized, cannot be transferred, and cannot be repurposed. (At least
>> not without violating policy).
>>
>> Owen
>>
>> On May 5, 2016, at 07:59 , Andrew Dul <andrew.dul at quark.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> As part of the discussions at ARIN 37 the community considered updates to
>> the proposed draft policy that would allow organizations to transfer,
>> within ARIN, reserved pool resources provided that they met the criteria to
>> obtain a block from a reserved pool.
>>
>> Based upon this feedback we are proposing to update the draft policy text
>> as follows.  The AC welcomes your feedback on this proposed text and any
>> other feedback on this draft policy.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>> *Original** Policy statement:*
>>
>> Add to Section 8.3 and Section 8.4 under the "Conditions on source of the
>> transfer:"
>>
>> Address resources from a reserved pool (including those designated in
>> Section 4.4 and 4.10) are not eligible for transfer.
>>
>> *Updated **Policy statement:*
>>
>> Add to Section 8.3 under the "Conditions on recipient of the transfer:"
>>
>> Address resources from a reserved pool (including those designated in
>> Section 4.4 and 4.10) shall only be transferred to organizations which meet
>> the current criteria of the reserved pool from which the resource was
>> obtained.
>> Add to Section 8.4 under the "Conditions on source of the transfer:"
>>
>> Address resources from a reserved pool (including those designated in
>> Section 4.4 and 4.10) are not eligible for transfer.
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