[arin-ppml] LAST CALL for Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-3: Remove 30 day utilization requirement in end-user IPv4 policy

Steven Ryerse SRyerse at eclipse-networks.com
Thu May 12 18:01:25 EDT 2016

I agree with Matthew & Milton.  I’m seeing large legacy holders sell off parts of their blocks small chunks at a time. That is the result of supply and demand and in this case the exhaustion has led to demand from organizations that hold Legacy blocks larger than they need.  This is how the marketplace really works as they see an opportunity to make money filling the demand. The market will reach equilibrium at some point and then true shortages will arise which will increase the price per IP. Pure supply and demand economics. The haves already have cornered the market and the have nots now have to buy from them. Hard to see how any policy will ever stop this normal business cycle.

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From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Kaufman
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 5:34 PM
To: Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com>; Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu>
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Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] LAST CALL for Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-3: Remove 30 day utilization requirement in end-user IPv4 policy

From: "Owen DeLong" <owen at delong.com<mailto:owen at delong.com>>

Despite your continued assertion of this position, no, there are a number of us who believe that needs assessment remains valid in the absence of a free pool as a mechanism to ensure that resources are not going to organizations without need.

You and others may believe that, but as far as I know, nobody has produced evidence that shows that needs assessment in fact provides that mechanism. Whereas there is significant evidence that - despite needs assessment continuing to be supported as policy - resources are in fact being locked up by organizations that do not meet the NRPM needs test (both existing organizations that no longer meet it, and therefore have addresses for sale - and organizations which are using mechanisms outside of transfer to assure that their longer-term future needs will be adequately met.)

While it is clear you do not perceive this as necessary, it does not make everyone who disagrees with you inherently wrong, nor does it indicate that we are disconnected from reality.

Until evidence is provided that the needs assessment that you and others so vehemently argue to continue as policy does in fact perform the function that you claim it does at this point in the IPv4 lifecycle, I will continue to take that as an indication that you are "disconnected from reality", as you put it.

Matthew Kaufman

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