[arin-ppml] LAST CALL for Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-3: Remove 30 day utilization requirement in end-user IPv4 policy

John Curran jcurran at arin.net
Thu May 12 17:41:49 EDT 2016

Folks -

    Please keep the discussion focused on the merits of the various policy positions,
    *rather than characterizations of the participants themselves)


On May 12, 2016, at 5:34 PM, Matthew Kaufman <matthew at matthew.at<mailto:matthew at matthew.at>> wrote:

From: "Owen DeLong" <owen at delong.com<mailto:owen at delong.com>>

Despite your continued assertion of this position, no, there are a number of us who believe that needs assessment remains valid in the absence of a free pool as a mechanism to ensure that resources are not going to organizations without need.

You and others may believe that, but as far as I know, nobody has produced evidence that shows that needs assessment in fact provides that mechanism. Whereas there is significant evidence that - despite needs assessment continuing to be supported as policy - resources are in fact being locked up by organizations that do not meet the NRPM needs test (both existing organizations that no longer meet it, and therefore have addresses for sale - and organizations which are using mechanisms outside of transfer to assure that their longer-term future needs will be adequately met.)

While it is clear you do not perceive this as necessary, it does not make everyone who disagrees with you inherently wrong, nor does it indicate that we are disconnected from reality.

Until evidence is provided that the needs assessment that you and others so vehemently argue to continue as policy does in fact perform the function that you claim it does at this point in the IPv4 lifecycle, I will continue to take that as an indication that you are "disconnected from reality", as you put it.

Matthew Kaufman

You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to
the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML at arin.net<mailto:ARIN-PPML at arin.net>).
Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:
Please contact info at arin.net<mailto:info at arin.net> if you experience any issues.

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <https://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/attachments/20160512/228dde87/attachment-0001.html>

More information about the ARIN-PPML mailing list