[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2016-2 Change timeframes for IPv4 requests to 24 months

[Owen DeLong]

I would say that is the only interpretation I can imagine being generally fair.

However, if someone has a better idea, I am open to it.

Owen

> On May 25, 2016, at 09:26 , David Farmer <farmer at umn.edu> wrote:
> 
> I would concur with that interpretation.  Assuming there is a
> consensus around that interpretation, I think it would be good to
> document that as the community's intent by adding a comment to the
> policy more or less saying just that.
> 
> David
> 
> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Scott Leibrand
> <scottleibrand at gmail.com> wrote:
>> My understanding is that those on the waiting list would stay on the waiting
>> list, approved for the blocks they're already approved for.  We would not
>> "grow" their approvals, as that would be unfair to those right behind them
>> on the list, or let them get on the list a second time.  Anyone who wants to
>> go to the end of the waiting list will be pre-approved for up to a 24-month
>> supply, but will be unlikely to ever get it from the free pool.  Such
>> approval will also be properly sized to acquire a block via transfer,
>> though, so that's how I expect most new approvals to be filled.
>> 
>> -Scott
>> 
>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Jason Schiller <jschiller at google.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure this impacts whether I support or not, but I
>>> think it is good to have clear expectations.
>>> 
>>> How would this impact those already on the waiting list?
>>> 
>>> Would they stay in place, and the request grow to a 2
>>> year need if they could provide justification for such?
>>> 
>>> Would they stay in place, and the request grow to a 2
>>> year need automatically if they have transfer
>>> pre-approval?
>>> 
>>> Would this only apply to those being added to the wait
>>> list after the policy is implemented?
>>> 
>>> ___Jason
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 5:40 PM, ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Draft Policy ARIN-2016-2 Change timeframes for IPv4 requests to 24 months
>>>> 
>>>> On 19 May the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) accepted "ARIN-prop-227 Change
>>>> timeframes for all IPv4 requests to 24 months" as a Draft Policy.
>>>> 
>>>> Draft Policy ARIN-2016-2 is below and can be found at:
>>>> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2016_2.html
>>>> 
>>>> You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will
>>>> evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this draft
>>>> policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated
>>>> in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are:
>>>> 
>>>>  * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
>>>>  * Technically Sound
>>>>  * Supported by the Community
>>>> 
>>>> The PDP can be found at:
>>>> https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
>>>> 
>>>> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
>>>> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Communications and Member Services
>>>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ARIN-2016-2 Change timeframes for IPv4 requests to 24 months
>>>> 
>>>> Date: 24 May 2016
>>>> 
>>>> Problem Statement:
>>>> 
>>>> Disparity in timeframes between pre-approvals for waiting list and
>>>> pre-approval for transfers is creating difficulties for organizations that
>>>> initially apply to be on the waiting list and subsequently elect to satisfy
>>>> their needs through transfers.
>>>> 
>>>> Therefore, this proposal seeks to set all timeframes for IPv4 request
>>>> approvals to 24 months. Prior to runout, such a change could have created
>>>> great disparity in resource distribution just because of coincidence of
>>>> request timing. With the free pool gone, this is no longer an issue.
>>>> 
>>>> Policy statement:
>>>> 
>>>> Retitle section 4.2.2.1.3 "Three months" to "Time Horizon".
>>>> 
>>>> In section 4.2.2.1.3 body, replace "three months" with "24 months".
>>>> 
>>>> In section 4.2.3.8, replace the term "three months" with "24 months".
>>>> 
>>>> In section 4.3.3, replace both instances of "one year" with "24 months".
>>>> 
>>>> In section 4.2.4.3, replace the entire paragraph which currently reads:
>>>> "ISPs may request up to a 3-month supply of IPv4 addresses from ARIN, or a
>>>> 24-month supply via 8.3 or 8.4 transfer. Determination of the appropriate
>>>> allocation to be issued is based on efficient utilization of space within
>>>> this time frame, consistent with the principles in 4.2.1."
>>>> 
>>>> with:
>>>> 
>>>> "ISPs may request up to a 24 month supply of IPv4 addresses."
>>>> 
>>>> Timetable for implementation: Immediate
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>>> 
>>> 
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