[arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN 2015-2 Modify 8.4 (Inter-RIR Transfers to Specified Recipients)

David Huberman daveid at panix.com
Wed Jun 1 14:44:41 EDT 2016


"The assets using the number resources currently registered to David Corp are now under the control of Jason Corp.  David Corp and Jason Corp are both subs of LizAndHeather Corp, as shown in this document here."

> On Jun 1, 2016, at 10:19 AM, Jason Schiller <jschiller at google.com> wrote:
> 
> John,
> 
> I guess I don't know what is meant by corporate reorganization 
> as referenced in 8.2.  I assume this means the corporate 
> structure has changed, for example closing a wholly owned 
> subsidiary, or moving a subsidiary to a parent higher up in the tree.
> 
> I tried to suggest an example where the corporate structure has 
> not changed.  I no longer need IPs for my orgID X, but could use 
> them for my OrgID Y and my OrgID Z.  Where X, Y , and Z  have 
> always been wholly owned subs, and will continue to be so for the 
> foreseeable future.  Or a completely seperate case where X, Y, and Z
> have always been a single legal entity, and will continue to be so for the 
> foreseeable future.
> 
> Does "I have pulled the plug on product P so we don't the need the 
> IPs but can use them elsewhere" Or "Product Q stopped growing so I no 
> longer need the unused IP space but can use them elsewhere" qualify as 
> a corporate re-organization and therefor the transfer permitted under 8.2?
> 
> __Jason
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 11:27 AM, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
>>> On Jun 1, 2016, at 11:02 AM, Jason Schiller <jschiller at google.com> wrote:
>>> I can move any IP equal to or larger than the minimum between ARIN OrgIDs as long as 
>>> the entities registered to the OrgID have either the source or recipient entity owning or 
>>> controling the other, or both are under common ownership or control?
>> 
>> In cases of a reorganization of responsibilities (as you describe above), 
>> number resources may be transferred between related organizations in 
>> accordance with NRPM 8.2.
>> 
>>> Even without a corporate reorganization?
>> 
>> Unknown - please distinguish what you mean by a “corporate reorganization”;
>> is this distinct from organizations which are undergoing some form of internal 
>> reorganization of functions?
>> 
>> /John
>> 
>> John Curran
>> President and CEO
>> ARIN
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> Jason Schiller|NetOps|jschiller at google.com|571-266-0006
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