[arin-ppml] 2-byte ASN policy

Bill Buhler bill at tknow.com
Wed Apr 6 10:48:56 EDT 2016

What about a policy including a grace period before reissue? For instance the FCC will not reissue a call sign for two years after validation. This allows the original licensee to correct the issue and come back into good grace. What if ARIN started handling resources in that manner? They could start by posting in arrears notice on the records when the bill is unreasonably past due. At one year they could list the record as revoked, and at two years reissue if the offending party hasn’t dealt with it?


From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of David Farmer
Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 11:44 PM
To: Seth Mattinen
Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] 2-byte ASN policy

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 11:56 PM, Seth Mattinen <sethm at rollernet.us<mailto:sethm at rollernet.us>> wrote:

If the ASN gets legitimately issued to someone else and the squatter proceeds to hijack it from the legitimate registrant they should be turned off if the ISP is going to do the right thing according to whois.


If you forgot to pay your bill and ARIN reissues your ASN, it's a matter of perspective who the hijacker is.

I'm not saying it's OK to not pay your bill, but how punitive should we be asking ARIN staff to be?  Especially, if ARIN staff has every reason to believe the organization using the ASN is the original registrant?  And if we the internet routing community are not will to be the bad guys and stop routing it after ARIN staff signals us by removing it from the registry.  When what are we really expecting?

We're not being very forthright, if we ask ARIN staff to break things that we the internet routing community are not will to break ourselves.

Do we really need to recycle these ASN bad enough to cause intentional breakage?  Then we need to stop using them in the internet routing system!

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