[arin-ppml] 2-byte ASN policy

Chris Woodfield chris at semihuman.com
Mon Apr 4 16:30:40 EDT 2016


Do we have information on how many 2-byte ASNs get returned, compared to the rate of requests for them? Is there a surplus? 

> On Apr 3, 2016, at 11:36 AM, Adam Thompson <athompso at athompso.net> wrote:
> 
> IMO, 2-byte ASNs should simply be retired and not reallocated. "Solving the technical problem", as described in your email, is actually ensuring the perpetuation of a different technical problem.
> It's the same sort of thing as the IPv4 vs IPv6 --transition, but this time ARIN has an opportunity to at least avoid being part of the problem, even if it can't really be part of the "solution".
> Let's please not prolong this problem, too... even in central Canada, known for a paucity of upstream carriers, it's now commercially feasible to work around the 2-byte technical limitations.
> 
> -Adam
> 
> 
> On April 3, 2016 12:59:37 PM CDT, Andrew Dul <andrew.dul at quark.net> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am starting a new thread in PPML, as a follow up to the ARIN 
> suggestion and consultation which recently started regarding creating a 
> 2-byte ASN waiting list.
> 
> The original suggestion is here:
> 
> https://www.arin.net/participate/acsp/suggestions/2016-04.html <https://www.arin.net/participate/acsp/suggestions/2016-04.html>
> 
> ARIN opened a consultation on this suggestion on the arin-consult 
> mailing-list.  This thread starts here for those who are not subscribed 
> to arin-consult.
> 
> http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-consult/2016-March/000713.html <http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-consult/2016-March/000713.html>
> 
> http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-consult/2016-April/000722.html <http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-consult/2016-April/000722.html>
> 
> As the thread evolved it has been suggested that this issue should be 
> resolved via the policy development process rather than through a 
> suggestion.
> 
> There are a number of questions that have been raised by this thread.  I 
> am copying them here to continue the discussion on PPML.
> 
> ===
> 
> Working problem statement: ARIN will receive 2-byte ASNs as  returns 
> over time, and these ASNs have perceived or additional value to
> organizations compared to 4-byte ASNs.  How should ARIN allocate these 
> 2-byte ASNs?
> 
> ===
> 
> Should they be given to the next requester, regardless of technical need 
> for a 2-byte ASN? (What are the technical qualifications we should use 
> if there is a specific technical need?  e.g. provides transit to more 
> than 1 ASN?)
> 
> If there is really a technical need for 2-byte ASNs, shouldn't we 
> attempt to build an inventory of 2-byte ASNs?
> 
> Should returns be held in reserve?
> 
> Should ARIN hold them for some period of
>   time 
> before reallocating them?
> 
> Should they be put up for auction to  qualified organizations?
> 
> Should they be given to the 1st organization  on a wait-list for 2-byte 
> ASNs?
> 
> Would an organization looking for a 2-byte ASN have the option to 
> receive a 4-byte ASN in the interim?  If they did would they have to 
> return it?
> 
> Should the waiting list be closed to organizations that already have a 
> 2-byte ASNs?
> 
> I and the AC would appreciate your comments on these questions so that 
> we can start to build a draft policy that best matches with what the 
> community would like to see implemented by ARIN.
> 
> Thanks,
> Andrew
> 
> 
> 
> 
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