[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks

[Steven Ryerse]

Obviously you are entitled to your opinion and I respect it, but I don’t share it.

Market price is driven by supply and demand and there is actually quite a supply of IPv4 resources out there in the huge amount of Legacy blocks that were issued before ARIN existed. If this community would fully embrace the transfers of these blocks in a way that encouraged, instead of discouraged, bringing those into the ARIN sphere - I think there would be so many blocks become available, the price would go way way down because of oversupply.

I know John will tell us that ARIN already has a mechanism for that built into current policy and that some Legacy blocks have become available thru that policy, but the fact that a large number of transactions continue to completely go around ARIN is indication that those Legacy holders do not want to abide by current ARIN policy.

So this community can refuse to make the changes to policy that would make these resources available above board on the open market, or it can continue to refuse to change and watch prices continue to rise until only big Orgs can afford them. At some point IPv6 might be the solution but until then IPv4 resources continues to be required. I think it is about time for this community to truly embrace the Legacy holders and I hope others come to that conclusion as well.  Maybe we need IPv4 Amnesty. My two cents.

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From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Sprunk
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 3:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks

On 25-Sep-15 14:05, Steven Ryerse wrote:
> It’s pretty obvious that if needs testing goes away, Legacy blocks will
> become much more available to anyone who needs them, ...

If so, only because it allows speculators to drive up the market price, which is not in the interests of those who actually need resources.

> When any small Organization requesting a very small amount of
> resources is completely denied resources because of arbitrary
> “policy”,

ARIN policy is not arbitrary, and it's set by the community; if you see a problem with how needs testing is done, feel free to suggest changes.

If your complaint is actually that the minimum block size is not small enough, that is an entirely different problem from needs testing.

S

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