[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-8: Reassignment records for IPv4 End-Users

John Curran jcurran at arin.net
Thu Oct 8 06:46:47 EDT 2015

On Oct 8, 2015, at 1:01 AM, Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com<mailto:hannigan at gmail.com>> wrote:

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 4:05 PM, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net<mailto:jcurran at arin.net>> wrote:
On Aug 28, 2015, at 1:56 PM, Gary T. Giesen <ggiesen at giesen.me<mailto:ggiesen at giesen.me>> wrote:
> Not to beat a dead horse, but I think if an org wants to (or is required to)
> make assignments to entities that don't fit that definition, then they
> should apply for an ISP block (or have their existing block converted) and
> pay the appropriate fees, and allow the rest of us to keep end-user fees
> low.

We have had a handful of organizations switch from end-user to ISP for the
purposes of being able to put in reassignment records (e.g. to improve the
usefulness of geolocation), but it is almost certain that others having avoided
such a change due to the cost implications.

What's the process to make such a change?

We’ve had so few requests of that type that there is no process; we really need to
hear from the community about whether there needs to be two different service
levels (end-users, who cannot sub delegate & ISPs, who can) or whether we can
provide the same registry services to all organizations.   Long-term, there will be
a substantial fee differential between end-users and ISPs due to the very material
difference in assignment sizes under IPv6 policies, so we’ll end up at the same
place in the end, but the question remains how to handle services and fees in
the meantime.

We’ll have some time to explore this topic later today during the Fee Schedule


John Curran
President and CEO

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