[arin-ppml] Thoughts on 2015-7

Martin Hannigan hannigan at gmail.com
Mon Oct 5 17:36:12 EDT 2015



> On Oct 5, 2015, at 17:27, Matthew Kaufman <matthew at matthew.at> wrote:
> 
>> On 10/5/2015 1:07 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Let me give you a real world example.
>> 
>> 1. Buy rights to use addresses in any quantity you believe you need
>> 2. Use those addresses as you need them, assuming the agreement you made with the party works properly
>> 3. Get an LOA from the documented owner
>> 4. Bypass ARIN entirely
>> 5. Use the addresses.
>> 
>> How do you think we should solve that problem?
> 
> How about another real-world example (several of these in play that I know of)
> 
> 1. Enter into a contract to acquire addresses in any quantity you believe you need (or more)
> 2. Not use the addresses right now, but know that you have as many as you want locked up from that seller, who can't sell to anyone else now
> 3. Transfer the addresses if/when ARIN policy permits
> 4. Use the addresses.
> 
> There is absolutely nothing in the current needs-based policy that ensures that entities that failed to plan for IPv4 runout and do not have sufficient cash to bid against entities engaged in this sort of practice will be able to get IPv4 addresses on the transfer market. And there is nothing about removing needs basis from the transfer policy that will change that. The game is already over, why insist on policies that no longer make any sense in the current environment?
> 


Bingo. The only sufferer is the directory and that is ARINs responsibility. 

Best, 

Marty










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