[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-2: Modify 8.4 (Inter-RIR Transfers to Specified Recipients)

[Owen DeLong]

> On May 28, 2015, at 8:26 AM, John Santos <JOHN at egh.com> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 28 May 2015, John Curran wrote:
> 
>> On May 27, 2015, at 11:39 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> My suggestion is that I don't mind (virtually) unrestricted moves of addresses to different regions staying with the same organization. However, if we are to allow that, I want us to find a way that you can't merely use that as a way to move addresses o
>> ut of flip protection to then flip them to another organization via an RIR with a less restrictive transfer policy.
>>> 
>>> So... If you transfer addresses to another region, keeping them in the same organization, no penalty. However, you are not allowed to subsequently transfer them (or other addresses in that region) to an external party for at least 12 months.
>> 
>> That second portion that you seek would affect the ongoing operation of 
>> another RIR, i.e. it requires them having some explicit policy to that effect.  
>> 
>> To obtain the result you seek, we either need globally coordinated transfer 
>> policy in this area, or you need to make the inter-RIR transfer policy explicit 
>> in this regard in determination of compatibility.
> 
> If the penalty were that if you transfered out of your organization those
> addresses in less than 12 months, you could not receive new addresses
> (either from free pool or as the result of a directed transfer) UNDER ARIN
> until the 12 months were up, there would be no requirement of any change
> to any other RIR's rules nor any requirement of coordination with other
> RIRs.

I also don’t think it would be sufficient penalty. The company in question would merely
obtain their addresses via transfer into another RIR.

Owen