[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-6: Transfers and Multi-national Networks

Scott Leibrand scottleibrand at gmail.com
Tue Jun 23 20:42:06 EDT 2015


I believe the text is compatible as-is.  If section 4 says out of region
use is allowed, and then section 8 (where this one would go) also says
geographic location doesn't matter, then ARIN will follow whichever of
those they get to first, and we might just have slightly more lenient rules
for transfers than free pool (waiting list) allocations.

But if ARIN staff thinks there would be a conflict between the two if both
are passed, they will flag that in the Staff and Legal assessment, and we
can add any language needed to clarify.  Alternately, the AC can decide to
merge the two proposals or only recommend one of them for adoption if both
look like they have support and only one is needed.

-Scott

On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Matthew Kaufman <matthew at matthew.at> wrote:

> I think I'd be ok with that... do we need language in one or the other
> that explains what happens if both pass?
>
> Matthew Kaufman
> matthew at matthew.at
>
>
> On 6/23/2015 5:21 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>
>> I agree with your reasoning, but as a conclusion, I support the
>> broader-based 2015-5 as I believe it provides a more flexible solution to a
>> wider swath of the ARIN community.
>>
>> Owen
>>
>>  On Jun 23, 2015, at 17:19 , Matthew Kaufman <matthew at matthew.at> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 6/23/2015 1:06 PM, ARIN wrote:
>>>
>>>> Draft Policy ARIN-2015-6
>>>> Transfers and Multi-national Networks
>>>>
>>> I support this policy. For whatever reason, an entity may choose to be
>>> utilizing its address space anywhere in the world. Where the addresses are
>>> being used at this instant should not have any bearing on whether or not
>>> they are "utilized". Clearly if I have a /24 filled to 95% capacity with
>>> running VMs, and they're running on physical hardware in Virginia, that /24
>>> is utilized. If I happen to choose later today to move them to a physical
>>> host in Luxembourg, the addresses didn't stop being utilized... they're
>>> just temporarily being used somewhere else in the world, and that's
>>> perfectly reasonable.
>>>
>>> Further, keeping restrictions like this will simply cause entities to
>>> work around the policy either by using subsidiaries or by not even
>>> bothering to record transfers.
>>>
>>> Matthew Kaufman
>>> matthew at matthew.at
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